Draft a QB but sit him a year?

[Matt62881]

11 hours ago, Squirrel said:

Yes or no

I dont believe in sitting a qb if you believe he is your best chance to win or he has the highest ceiling. The quickest way to learn to play at NFL speed is by taking snaps in real games. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

11 hours ago, Squirrel said:

Yes or no

No. If that's the Case then Will Grier should be the plan next year. Which most of you will say no. We've already spent a 3rd round pick on a QB. Just draft the best OT or DL. That should be the plan. Fix those damn lines. 

[1of10Charnatives]

17 hours ago, TheRed said:

What's the use in sitting quarterbacks their first year anymore in the modern NFL?

It's 2020.

Yeah drafted qb’s in the past had come up through high school and college systems that were largely run dominated and needed time to absorb pro style passing concepts and a adjust to the accuracy needed. 

Comtemporary qb’s are the beneficiaries of increased passing at lower levels and have been running 7 on 7 drills since recess at preschool. They are much more pro ready.

[unicar15]

17 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This is the correct answer 

Yep. Focus on DL and OL in this draft. Trade Cam for 2021 picks. Roll with Grier, Allen, or FA. Get in position to draft Lawrence or Justin Fields. 
 

This is going to be a process and if you really believe all of the “you have to build the trenches” talk then spend this year doing that and just suck it up that you’re probably going to be terrible. But hey..you’re gonna get a QB who will win for years out of it. 

[lightsout]

Charnatives touched on it, but I'll add to it.

I see two reasons for the previous trend of sitting QBs to learn.

1) They weren't asked to do as much in high school and college. High school (at least from my experience and knowledge) didn't used to pass much. To see a QB consistently throw for 200+ yards and multiple TDs was insanely rare. Then in college, it was still run heavy with wing-t, wishbone sets, and power I. Pass concepts were higher than HS, but it still wasn't much in terms of pro concepts. Waggle, a lot of roll outs, etc. So, to sit a year and absorb the playbook and watch the offense operate as intended was essential.

2) You had a vet who was still useful in place and you're grooming the next QB. This was the most recent trend even just 15-20 years ago. You don't want your team to miss a beat, so you let the young guy learn under the old guy so when he retires or is sent packing at the end of his contract, you have a guy who has been around and is ready. This of course means QBs aren't stepping in until 25 years old or so, last 8 or so good years, then a couple of OK years while preparing to pass the torch. Young QBs generally didn't play year 1. In cases where they did, the results were mixed.

Cam was one of the first to break that trend. He came in and started. New coach, new system, explosive athlete with an arm. This became what every team wanted. A young guy who could start and produce for longer so the team could build around that QB and thus, improve in other areas that had higher turnover than the QB position. This happened because around the mid-to-late 2000s, college offenses started leaning more pro-style. QBs were developing faster and younger, so they were exiting the draft more prepared for the NFL. Then the spread took hold in college and made it's way into the NFL around the early part of Cam's career and it has snowballed into what the NFL is now.



Is there value to a QB sitting? Depends on your situation. Drafting a guy with somebody like Brady or Brees starting in front of him for a couple years and you have a plan to move on from that guy in favor of the draft pick? Sure, it's still a decent idea to ensure that they get the offense. However, the counter argument is you don't really know what you have until they're in the game and playing. A guy can be prepared and still fail to execute game to game. Now with the CBA being what it is, you're paying a 1st round QB good money. If you're taking him, you almost have to start him if not the first year, definitely the second.