Should the Panthers go all in on Joe Burrow?

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Hurney drafted Grier thinking he would be a top guy. Let that sink in. 

If I were forced to make a prediction right now I would say that I predict that our future QB is not currently on the roster.

[stan786]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm undecided on the "should" part.

Is he a franchise quarterback? Don't know, but there's definitely evidence to suggest he is.

He'd be working under an offensive coordinator whose system he obviously knows and could be successful in.

What would it take to get him? An arm and a leg would probably just be the down payment.

And once that's done, you still have to protect him. How do you do that with the resources you have left?

This is basically a "Gift of the Magi" type question, and not an easy one to answer.

The one thing I do feel comfortable saying? I believe Tepper would do it. He's not shy at all about going after what he wants.

 

The tepper part is the big one. In an offseason of taking risks him pushing moving to draft his QB the next 10+ years wouldn’t shock me at all.

[Call Me James]

1 minute ago, stan786 said:

It’s ignoring the point that the way they got their franchise QB was by trading their first the following year to move up. Which is what you are saying has set them back. Though I’m sure Eagles and Rams fans are plenty happy where that got them.

You do realize giving away the kings ransom for Goff kept them from drafting players of nrrf which forced them to do the same thing this year with Ramsey. 

The cowboys picking zEke and Dak and Smith immediately filled three holes and gave them three pro bowl caliber players. 

If a team is actually rebuilding you need multiple picks to get there. 

In order to get Goff they gave up 2 first and a second. 

The Panthers would have to do something similar to move up to 1 if not more. 

 

Reminder: Luke just retired. Greg is probably going to retire. 

[Call Me James]

13 minutes ago, t96 said:

I’m not a big fan of Burrow and I’d prefer Lawrence next year but if we were to do it to pair him with Brady, I’d trade #7, Cam and next year’s first. Doubt the Bengals would do that but I wouldn’t want to give up much more than that.

Or you see if a QB slides. If you're done with Cam you're going to get much better value moving up to get someone like Tua then giving away the farm for Burrow. 

[GoobyPls]

11 minutes ago, lightsout said:

Not saying he was bad, but the guy compared to college QBs then and now, was never talked about like Burrow or other top QBs while at State. He was looked at then as good but not great. He had an impressive streak of passes without an interception. One of the best in the ACC if not the best QB in his time there...but not in the national conversation while at NC State.

So your proving my point, Wilson was never a one year wonder. Burrow in the other hand, hasn’t been successful outside one season.

[Woodie]

1 minute ago, stan786 said:

Moving to 3 is the play in my mind as well. Brady gets the QB oft compared to Drew Brees, the player Brady spent time with in NO developing his offense around.

If they genuinely think that hip will be ok, then I agree.  The cost would be much more manageable.  And even if Tua doesn't get back all of his mobility, it would be ok since the NO system (which Brady will be implementing) doesn't require the QB to be running all over the place.  It just requires the QB to be able to move around the pocket and be accurate and able to make quick decisions, which is exactly what makes Tua special.

And from what I understand, teams should have a really good idea about that hip by the time the draft rolls around.  There should be sufficient healing to know if it is healing properly.  So we wouldn't be making the pick with the hope and a prayer that he is able to play.

The only issue is we might have to out bid Miami, which could put it out of our reach since they have far more draft capital than we do.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, stan786 said:

The tepper part is the big one. In an offseason of taking risks him pushing moving to draft his QB the next 10+ years wouldn’t shock me at all.

He's also made no bones about the fact that he'll accept a couple of bad seasons if that's what it takes to build a contender.

I don't think he'd have a problem with taking a quarterback that he believes is a long-term success, even if you can't use him for a season or so.

[RumHam]

If burrow has cmc and doesn't turn the ball over, hes already better than allen and can throw the ball deep. If we go this route, defense may just need to go on the backburner and we should focus on outscoring opponents and clock management and let the D come next year. A new oline coach may help shore up turner, but that left side is atrocious and little and daley arent the answer. 

However, we may finally see moton moved to LT and move little over to right. Technically we have a sufficient LT but Ron was an idiot with his left handed approach

[Panther53521]

I am sorry, we are not drafting a QB this year and Cam will be our QB for 2020, now for 2021, with a great QB group (I hear) we will make the decision on Cam, then move forward with Cam or a new QB

stop dreaming of Burrow or Tua in a Panthers uniform .... all we need to do is draft OL and DL, secondary .... placing a good OL for a new QB would do wonders for our offense

[stan786]

15 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

You do realize giving away the kings ransom for Goff kept them from drafting players of nrrf which forced them to do the same thing this year with Ramsey. 

The cowboys picking zEke and Dak and Smith immediately filled three holes and gave them three pro bowl caliber players. 

If a team is actually rebuilding you need multiple picks to get there. 

In order to get Goff they gave up 2 first and a second. 

The Panthers would have to do something similar to move up to 1 if not more. 

 

Reminder: Luke just retired. Greg is probably going to retire. 

The Rams traded entire drafts of players for overpriced veterans, that’s what really hurt them, and paying Gurley. But they traded almost two entire drafts for Cooks, Watkins, Talib, Marcus Peters, and Fowler and only have two of those players left.  That was a much bigger issue than the Goff trade. Rams just needed a little patience and they could have built a much stronger base, instead they tried to rush the process and almost succeeded but now are stuck between a rock and a hard place. 

[Jon Snow]

17 minutes ago, stan786 said:

The tepper part is the big one. In an offseason of taking risks him pushing moving to draft his QB the next 10+ years wouldn’t shock me at all.

It would shock me...or maybe it would be more of a fear that we may have a JJ or a DS on our hands.  I can't bring myself to utter their names for fear of speaking it into existence.

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, Call Me James said:

You do realize giving away the kings ransom for Goff kept them from drafting players of nrrf which forced them to do the same thing this year with Ramsey. 

The cowboys picking zEke and Dak and Smith immediately filled three holes and gave them three pro bowl caliber players. 

If a team is actually rebuilding you need multiple picks to get there. 

In order to get Goff they gave up 2 first and a second. 

The Panthers would have to do something similar to move up to 1 if not more. 

Reminder: Luke just retired. Greg is probably going to retire. 

I'm pretty sure the Rams made it to a Super Bowl recently.

When was the last time the Cowboys even won a playoff game?

[stan786]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

It would shock me...or maybe it would be more of a fear that we may have a JJ or a DS on our hands.  I can't bring myself to utter their names for fear of speaking it into existence.

I guess I don’t think it’s just a him thing, I’m not sure Rhule hires an up and coming hotshot OC without wanting to get him a young QB to mold while he’s still around, especially if this is a he offense he wants to continue running into the future.

[Jon Snow]

18 minutes ago, stan786 said:

I guess I don’t think it’s just a him thing, I’m not sure Rhule hires an up and coming hotshot OC without wanting to get him a young QB to mold while he’s still around, especially if this is a he offense he wants to continue running into the future.

I'm sure they will draft a QB, this year or the next to add to the depth if the opportunity were to arise.  I'm guessing they will draft a QB quite regularly from here on out.  Even if they hit on one right away they will continue to churn the QB depth chart, unlike in the years past to prevent what we are experiencing now.