Should the Panthers go all in on Joe Burrow?

[*FreeFua*]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

just a reminder....Joe Burrow sucked last year.  Joe Burrow actually never did poop in college until after he graduated college.   So LSU should of moved on from him last year.  This season shouldn't of happened b that logic. 

Our new coach loved Grier.  Our new staff couldn't stop Will Grier in reality.  Will Greir abused them. They might not be in a rush give away all their draft stock for a QB.  What is around a QB matters and you need draft picks to build that.  Talent around a QB, coaching, and scheme. 

I don't see this new staff giving away draft picks to move up in the draft.  That just isn't how you rebuild. 

I’m just saying that if you think Burrow is that franchise type QB then the draft capital you give up is worth it. 

Whether Burrow is THAT guy or not well who knows. Joe Brady would have a pretty good guess though. 

[Sam Mills Fan]

2020 needs to be spent building pieces so the QB we get in 2021 (Trevor Lawrence? Justin Fields?) will be walking into an environment that lets them succeed. I say no to trading up.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

No one would know better than Joe Brady. 

Exactly. We're in a very unique position to have better insight on the #1 QB prospect than we'll ever be in again.

But who knows? Maybe Brady is telling them the kid is good but not worth what it would take.

[SteveSmithTD89]

20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Can won't be traded.  He will be released and maybe you get 3rd next year but let's just drop this fantasy trade idea.  And Burrow will cost more than the value chart indicates you can bank on that. 

This team is NOT one player away from competing.  They need way more draft picks than they have.   

Released players dont net you any comp picks. If you want compensation for Cam you trade him or he plays out the year and THEN leaves as a FA netting a comp pick. 

[stan786]

If you want to move on from Cam you 100% have to trade up and get your guy.  I’d be happier trying to move up to 3 for Tua as it’ll be a little cheaper.  Rams and Eagles have both had some nice success trading their future picks for their QB. 70 million Cap Space and a QB on a rookie deal can be very powerful assets.  

[emcannon]

37 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

The obvious answer is NO 

You could've stopped typing there.

[Harbingers]

5 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m just saying that if you think Burrow is that franchise type QB then the draft capital you give up is worth it. 

Whether Burrow is THAT guy or not well who knows. Joe Brady would have a pretty good guess though. 

Johnny Manziel. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Released players dont net you any comp picks. If you want compensation for Cam you trade him or he plays out the year and THEN leaves as a FA netting a comp pick. 

Then nothing it is. 

[Growl]

3 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

2020 needs to be spent building pieces so the QB we get in 2021 (Trevor Lawrence? Justin Fields?) will be walking into an environment that lets them succeed. I say no to trading up.

the NFL doesn't work this way and it doesn't even make any sense.

 

You aren't going to get a franchise QB in the middle of the 1st round. The Panthers aren't going to have the 1st pick. The team that does isn't going to trade it.

If you have a chance at getting a franchise QB, you take it.

[joemac]

24 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Can won't be traded.  He will be released and maybe you get 3rd next year but let's just drop this fantasy trade idea.  And Burrow will cost more than the value chart indicates you can bank on that. 

This team is NOT one player away from competing.  They need way more draft picks than they have.   

Well thanks for clearing that up - seems you are the authority on the subject.  Cam absolutely could be traded.  Perhaps a team like Miami or San Diego or Denver does not wish to roll the dice on another young QB.  What stops them from making a trade for Cam (assuming he is healthy)?  I may be in the minority around here, but I do not think a first round pick for a healthy Cam Newton is out of the question.  Didnt Jalen Ramsey just get traded for 2 firsts or something like that?

[Waldo]

As long as our Oline is garbage, trading away future picks for a QB is insane. And banking on the Oline we saw this year to just be better is a bet I'm not taking. Could they be better, sure but thats far from guaranteed. If we had a decent Oline and a good LT I think my opinion would differ but we have none of those things and as close as we can get now is 'we hope'...that is not a yes. I would rather grab a top shelf LT, tank and use next year's top 5 pick on that QB if Cam is done or gone.

[teeray]

I don't move on from Cam for anyone in this draft not named Burrow. 

[Harbingers]

Just now, Growl said:

You aren't going to get a franchise QB in the middle of the 1st round. The Panthers aren't going to have the 1st pick. The team that does isn't going to trade it.

Firstly why would they trade it this year?

Secondly, you are expecting a mid round pick next year? Nah. 1-15 2-14 or ya 0-16. 

[joemac]

24 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think there is an argument for it. 

I mean, rebuilding generally doesn't involve trading away all your draft picks for a player and we clearly are rebuilding.  Rebuilding means acquiring draft picks and unloading bodies.  Sucking hard in 2020.  Getting our franchise QB in 2021. 

Only us fans have uttered the dreaded "rebuilding" phrase.  I have not heard Tepper or Rhule say that this team is completely tearing everything down and starting over.