So the media believes Fox is a genius??

[AZPanther]

So does completing 50% of your passes for 94 yards (67 of those on two plays) get the pressure off Jake? As thrilled as I was to witness the win and especially how we got it I think its unrealistic to expect this every week. The problem is when we get behind and Jake is forced to throw 40 times a game. So until we see how he reacts to that situation (again) Im not sold on this being our best QB option.

Even with so few passes he still had questionable throws into coverage but came out OK...this time. I hope we can contain Brees next week and give them their first loss; but if Jake has to pass to keep up we will be in trouble.

So how many more times will we see smoke and go route to Smitty since it worked last game? I love the call as corners have been jumping that quick down the line pass (not sure what that play is called.. just "smoke"??) for years and that definitely helps to keep them honest.

This may be me playing Captain Obvious but it does seem like the media has decided that nobody else could have accomplished what Jake did last Sunday and we should all pat him on the back for being a "game manager" (he is not). If that is what we expect from him then he becomes Trent Dilfer, Kyle Orton type of QB that cant win games but could definitely lose them for you. And he does lose them. Alot.

Go Panthers!! I still have hope for this year!

[N1kkadeemuz]

Are you like AK's cousin?:co:

[Cat'sGrowl]

If Fox gets fired, people are going to be shocked how fast he gets signed.

The trolls in this fanbase here are the only ones who view Fox in a poor light.

Stop playing Madden and come into the real works kiddies.

[King Taharqa]

Coaches who regularly get outcoached are not "geniuses". The NFL media will never speak ill of a conservative organization or conservative coach. Jeff Fisher has been called a "genius" too.

[British_Panther]

The quick pass is just called the smoke pass yes, and the smoke-and-go relies on both an agressive corner AND low safety as it is a slow developing play.

[beastson]

If Fox gets fired, people are going to be shocked how fast he gets signed.

The trolls in this fanbase here are the only ones who view Fox in a poor light.

Stop playing Madden and come into the real works kiddies.

Who cares... as long as he's not our coach

I wonder how many Bronco's fans said that about Shannahan, and they started off undefeated, and what they was saying then

[CRA]

If Fox gets fired, people are going to be shocked how fast he gets signed.

The trolls in this fanbase here are the only ones who view Fox in a poor light.

Stop playing Madden and come into the real works kiddies.

I think most agree Fox would easily find a job as a Defenisive Coordinator.

[Udogg]

I don't think he is a bad coach. Conservative at times, but he believes in his philosophy.

I believe in good defense/running game/throw when you have to type of football.

I think he is the best coach we have ever had.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

I don't think he listens to what the "fans" say all the time which is a good quality in a coach.

I think other than mistakes by certain players we have a very strong team. The shelves aren't bare.

Change at head coach doesn't always fix problem, just like change in FO doesn't either.

It's really, really hard to win a championship in the NFL.

[err456]

I don't think he is a bad coach. Conservative at times, but he believes in his philosophy.

I believe in good defense/running game/throw when you have to type of football.

I think he is the best coach we have ever had.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

I don't think he listens to what the "fans" say all the time which is a good quality in a coach.

I think other than mistakes by certain players we have a very strong team. The shelves aren't bare.

Change at head coach doesn't always fix problem, just like change in FO doesn't either.

It's really, really hard to win a championship in the NFL.

It's hard not to agree with at least most of what your are saying here but Fox has badly underestimated Jake's ability at this stage of his career and will pay the price for it. If Fox had a great QB he would not be so conservative and he would not have more loses that wins. We all know great (even good) QB's are hard to come by and are not cheap. It may take some time before we are were we need to be.

[Zod]

If Fox gets fired, people are going to be shocked how fast he gets signed.

Probably right. Over hyped mediocre coaches get signed a few times before the league figures out they are not worth it.

See Dom Capers.

[rayzor]

people have been saying that fisher is a great coach for years but what has he really done except keep his job for 16 years?

fox won't get hired as an HC again as quickly as some people think. who is it that teams are hiring these days? it isn't retreads very often. you compare him with cowher, shannahan, holmgren, schotty, and gruden who will probably all be on the market next year and he doesn't stand a chance in the market that is actually looking at retreads. if fisher is on the market at the same time as fox (which is very much a possibility) then fox's chance to score an HC job drops a bit more.

there are probably going to be 8-10 HC changes next year and two thirds of them are going to go to new coaches. there are going to be only 2 or 3 HC jobs going to retreads and probably 10 vying for them. fox doesn't stand much of a chance. he'll go back to being a DC somewhere.

[Scrumtrilescent]

He's a good coach, just not a good coach for us anymore. Sometimes you just have to move on to keep fresh.

[Sword]

we should trade fox for a first rounder gruden/herm edwards style

[pantherclaw]

I can see I'm not missing anything new at all on the huddle. Same ol' BS.