Looks like Rhule may target Joe Brady for OC

[Mr. Scot]

Josh Parcell having some fun with it...

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Lawrence is the better prospect because he still has the better package of skills.  Always has.  Every step along the way in comparison to someone like Burrow.  

Burrow is 2 years older than Kyle Allen.  He has never event attended LSU.   He basically is a professional QB taking advantage of the debut of the Saints offense being run against SEC teams.   If Brady stayed at LSU and Burrow could return (which he can't)…..there would be a course correction to their success. 

I mean, just look at the the swing in narrative just because of the OU game alone caused.  Crazy.   Clemson basically went from a 3 point favorite to a 6 pt dawg.  Because not only does OU play bad defense.  And they have all year.  But they played about the stupidest D possible in that bowl game with their bad D.   Nothing changed in a week in reality. 

Calm down Clemson fan. I'm not knocking Lawrence. I think he's a fantastic prospect. But yeah, if I'm choosing between the two right now today, I'm taking Joe Burrow.

I don't care about his student status at LSU or anywhere else. I don't care that he's 23 years old (the same age as Allen, not two years older) when elite QBs are playing into their late 30s and early 40s in today's NFL. I don't care about betting lines. I don't care about where he ranked as a college prospect compared to anyone else - Kyle Allen was the #1 QB recruit in the country and both he and Will Grier (#4) were rated above Deshaun Watson (#7).

I care about his unreal ability to throw a football and make the proper reads in an offense that should translate to the NFL.

[Varking]

50 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Lawrence is the better overall athlete and I don't think any would disagree. I'm not sold on him being the better overall QB prospect though. Burrow may have just out together the best passing season of any QB in P5 history and he didn't do it dinking and dunking, he did it chucking the ball down the field.

Somebody posted it last week but Tua up until the championship game last year was more efficient than Burrow this year almost across the board. And again. Burrow is doing this as a 5th year Senior. If Lawrence was three years older and in Joe Brady's offense in college I would expect similar numbers, if not better. And that is ignoring that while Clemson does have talent at WR, the talent at WR in LSU 1-4 might be the best I have ever seen on one squad at a time. 

[4Corners]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

Lawrence is the better prospect because he still has the better package of skills.  Always has.  Every step along the way in comparison to someone like Burrow.  

Burrow is 2 years older than Kyle Allen.  He has never event attended LSU.   He basically is a professional QB taking advantage of the debut of the Saints offense being run against SEC teams.   If Brady stayed at LSU and Burrow could return (which he can't)…..there would be a course correction to their success. 

I mean, just look at the the swing in narrative just because of the OU game alone caused.  Crazy.   Clemson basically went from a 2 point favorite to a 6 pt dawg.  Because not only does OU play bad defense.  And they have all year.  But they played about the stupidest D possible in that bowl game with their bad D.   Nothing has changed in reality since before and after that OU game.   But the narrative is vastly different. 

Burrow does one thing better than Lawrence.  His pocket movement is actually better as of right now.  That's it. 

What do you mean Burrow has never attended LSU? You have to be a student to play on the team. 

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Varking said:

Somebody posted it last week but Tua up until the championship game last year was more efficient than Burrow this year almost across the board. And again. Burrow is doing this as a 5th year Senior. If Lawrence was three years older and in Joe Brady's offense in college I would expect similar numbers, if not better. And that is ignoring that while Clemson does have talent at WR, the talent at WR in LSU 1-4 might be the best I have ever seen on one squad at a time. 

Maybe more efficient due to an algorithm, but at a much lower volume.

Y'all Clemson fans sure are a sensitive bunch. We all get it, Trevor Lawrence walks on water and he's the greatest QB prospect in the history of football. He vanquishes his opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. Meanwhile... Sam Howell just rewrote his freshman records playing with nowhere near the supporting cast.

[King K. Rhule]

Id literally nut over this hire

[joemac]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Maybe more efficient due to an algorithm, but at a much lower volume.

Y'all Clemson fans sure are a sensitive bunch. We all get it, Trevor Lawrence walks on water and he's the greatest QB prospect in the history of football. He vanquishes his opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. Meanwhile... Sam Howell just rewrote his freshman records playing with nowhere near the supporting cast.

Sam Howell is the next great one after Lawrence.

[Varking]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Maybe more efficient due to an algorithm, but at a much lower volume.

Y'all Clemson fans sure are a sensitive bunch. We all get it, Trevor Lawrence walks on water and he's the greatest QB prospect in the history of football. He vanquishes his opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. Meanwhile... Sam Howell just rewrote his freshman records playing with nowhere near the supporting cast.

Just a heads up I’m not a Clemson fan at all.

[King K. Rhule]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Maybe more efficient due to an algorithm, but at a much lower volume.

Y'all Clemson fans sure are a sensitive bunch. We all get it, Trevor Lawrence walks on water and he's the greatest QB prospect in the history of football. He vanquishes his opponents with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse. Meanwhile... Sam Howell just rewrote his freshman records playing with nowhere near the supporting cast.

2020 ACC championship Howell gets his revenge on Clemson in BOA, Knocking them out of the CFP. A man can dream.....

[t96]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we're #7 with Kyle Allen and Will Grier, I have to imagine we're better than that with Joe Burrow.

With both the owner and Rhule alluding to “tearing it down” to build it back up, Rhule transitioning to pros from college, and Rhule’s record in his first season with each team in college.... 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

Just a heads up I’m not a Clemson fan at all.

This just feels like Luck/Cam all over again. We'd all been told for years how Luck was the chosen one. He was the greatest QB prospect since Elway and the greatest overall pro prospect since Lebron and him going back to school was going to set the Panthers back for years and what will they do with their now worthless #1 overall pick???

Oh wait... Cam's better.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, King K. Rhule said:

2020 ACC championship Howell gets his revenge on Clemson in BOA, Knocking them out of the CFP. A man can dream.....

Won't happen. The refs will alter the game if need be. The conferences will desperately protect their CFP contenders because there are huge financial implications there. Remember the "offsides" penalty on the onside kick the last time there was a UNC/Clemson ACC CG game? Yeah...

[t96]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'd take Burrow over Lawrence and sucking is no guarantee of getting the #1 overall pick. Someone else could suck worse.

I guess we’ll find out but I wouldn’t trade the first overall pick in 2021 with Lawrence there for anybody except Mahomes. Not a single other player or package of picks and players, including Burrow, would come close for me. Lawrence is going to be the next Manning caliber QB, but even more mobile.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

I guess we’ll find out but I wouldn’t trade the first overall pick in 2021 with Lawrence there for anybody except Mahomes. Not a single other player or package of picks and players, including Burrow, would come close for me. Lawrence is going to be the next Manning caliber QB, but even more mobile.

It's possible. It's also possible that he Tua's himself next year or is just an outright bust.