Nepotism will torpedo the Matt Rhule era before it starts

[hepcat]

37 minutes ago, Dex said:

You made a shitty thread about a new head coach that hasn't even put his staff together yet. You sir, have contributed nothing but bullshit and arrogance. So that's what you get.

 

On the low I kind of like you as a Huddler so I hope we can still be friends. Kisses.

No reason to defend my post when you didn't even read it. Might want to reconsider where you're directing that comment.

[mc52beast]

Unfortunately this is how it works. Guys promise their friends that if they ever get to the NFL they’ll take them too. 

This doesn’t mean Rhule won’t let someone go if they aren’t doing a good job, I honestly don’t think he’s going to be like Ron and keep guys around just because they’re friends.

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, hepcat said:

Rivera had a bad case of hardcore nepotism. Richard Rodgers is a prime example.

(Nepotism requires that it be a family member.)

Cronyism is what you are speaking of.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

2 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I don't think Rhule has that much experience as a HC of a major organization. In college sure Baylor is decent but that's it. Not to mention his record being something like 47-42? Just by looking at the facts yes I'd say hes underqualified maybe not exactly "unqualified" and I'd have to say the same thing about Snow as well.

The person who is the most underqualified in this whole scenario is Mr. Tepper. He is also very inexperienced in this entire process and leaned on Marty Hurny a great deal. So the inexperience from the owner down to the coaches makes me very skeptical that Rhule is going to come in here and build sustained success. I just don't see it. And that's fine that's my opinion you don't have to like it and you certainly don't have to agree with it. I just don't share the same optimism as others when talking about this hire

The moment you use his record as the basis for his qualification its a giant sign saying "you can tune me out".

 

[Moose Hoover]

I like nepotism, but only when the flavors don't touch...well chocolate and vanilla can touch but not chocolate and strawberry

[cookinbrak]

3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Awwwwww.  I love a happy ending.

Ladies and gentlemen, Robert Kraft.

[Happy Panther]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

(Nepotism requires that it be a family member.)

Cronyism is what you are speaking of.

Cronyism is the better word but nepotism doesn't require family...

[PanthersBigD]

5 hours ago, hepcat said:

Our previous head coach stuck with comfortable bros he had worked with for way too long and it tanked the team into oblivion.

Although he has not done so yet, all indications are that Matt Rhule is bringing in all guys he has worked with before to fill out the staff. Not sure if he will be interviewing any other coaches from around the league to fill his staff. But I hope so.

I think Sean Ryan from the Lions looks like a strong up and comer and could be a great hire as offensive coordinator. At least he has been working away from Rhule for a bit to continue growing as a coach.

I think hiring Phil Snow, a retirement age journeyman coach who has never had success at the NFL level seems like a failure of a hire. He is 64 years old and has never coached anything more than the linebacker position at the NFL level, for the 0-16 2008 Lions of all teams.

I hope Tepper or someone from the Panthers staff is reading this. Don't hire who is comfortable!!! Get outside the box. The last coaching staff did what was comfortable. For the love of god and all that is holy, don't make the same mistakes of the last coach.

EDIT: Adding the definition of "nepotism" since it seems necessary based on the responses so far.

 

Here, I'll use it in a sentence: "If you think that Tepper or any other staff member would base personnel decisions off of the opinions of emotional/irrational fans on a message board, you are DELUSIONAL." 

I'm sure they have interns scouring this place for fan friendly ideas like putting the Panthers logo at midfield, although they probably got that from the players and/or Roaring Riot. They'd be silly to look for insight into actual strategy on a fan message board. 

[PanthersBigD]

Here's an excerpt from an Athletic article interviewing Max Olson, who covers Baylor extensively: 

https://theathletic.com/1522630/2020/01/09/qa-what-was-covering-matt-rhule-like-what-kinds-of-players-does-he-look-for-why-is-he-a-fit-for-carolina/?source=dailyemail

Rhule has given a few interviews where he discusses his understanding that Baylor wouldn’t always be able to get the blue-chip recruits, but that their coaching and adjustments — and emphasis on smart decision-making — would be what could give them their advantage. What examples of that did you see?

At Temple and again at Baylor, Rhule constructed winning programs on guys who fully bought into his program’s way of doing things. His staffs have consistently been terrific as talent evaluators, and they had to be in order to be successful. They find guys who fit and have the upside to develop into big-time talents. When Baylor offered a low-rated recruit in the state of Texas, other schools took notice and often followed. And because of what Rhule inherited at Baylor, he didn’t have room to take risks on low-character kids who’d get in trouble. He built that program up on a terrific group of young men who embraced his mission. At Temple, he developed guys like Haason Reddick, who came in as a walk-on and left as a first-round draft pick. I have no doubt that track record will translate in how they attack the NFL draft and free agency in the years ahead.

But it’s not all about talent acquisition. How they deploy that talent is a big piece of what makes them successful. Rhule is not coming into this organization with a system on offense or defense that he’s stuck to all these years. He adjusts to what he has and what it takes to win. In 2019, Baylor totally changed up its defense, shifting to an odd front in an effort to get its best athletes on the field. They developed a dominant three-man defensive line to make it all work and produced more than 30 takeaways and 40 sacks on the year. It was a dramatic transformation, both in system and in results, and it’s a credit to Rhule to not have any reluctance to evolve and try new things. There’s no doubt he’ll approach the Panthers job with the same mindset.

ALSO:

He spoke very highly of his Baylor staff in his introductory press conference on Wednesday. Who among them could you see joining him in Carolina?

Great question. I think in some ways what happens next at Baylor will help dictate that. Rhoades has launched a search for their next head coach and will undoubtedly have some strong options, but one possibility is Baylor associate head coach Joey McGuire gets promoted. If Rhoades goes in that direction, I could see a number of Baylor staffers getting retained and staying put in Waco.

One key staffer who has a big decision to make is defensive coordinator Phil Snow, who does have NFL experience in coaching for the Lions from 2005-2008. He and Rhule go way back, and his turnaround of the Bears’ defense is arguably the biggest reason why their team won 11 games and put Rhule in position to land this job. Several of Rhule’s former assistants at Baylor — Jeff Nixon, Glenn Thomas, Frisman Jackson, Bob Bicknell — have coached in the NFL in recent years and could be good fits in Carolina.

 

[Zeek]

L-O-fuging-L some of y'all are the worst "Chicken Littles" in the world.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

2 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

The moment you use his record as the basis for his qualification its a giant sign saying "you can tune me out".

 

I'm sorry but that's the first thing people look at for every head coach. Is that the basis of my argument? No. It wasn't. It was his inexperience as a head coach at a major program. There's also no consolation prize for losing in the NFL so yes his W/L record does in fact matter when interviewing for a position and his W/L will matter even more when he starts coaching games in the NFL.

[Fox007]

6 hours ago, yasuhara2241 said:

Every coach does this. They hire people they know and work well with. When starting a business most people hire people they know and have confidence in. I don't see the issue. 

Who the fug honestly thinks anyone world wide just randomly hires people they know nothing about to help navigate them life...the supreme ignorance and stupidity that must take...ffs.

Hey I am about to sink or swim with this let me give this random person I know nothing about the life line. ROFL

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

24 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I'm sorry but that's the first thing people look at for every head coach. Is that the basis of my argument? No. It wasn't. It was his inexperience as a head coach at a major program. There's also no consolation prize for losing in the NFL so yes his W/L record does in fact matter when interviewing for a position and his W/L will matter even more when he starts coaching games in the NFL.

His over all W/L record in college, in a vacuum, only matter to people that don't know what they are talking about.

So anyone I hear talking about his over all W/L record, as if its important or matters, I can only assume don't know what they are talking about and I am completely fine tuning them out.

Comparing his W/L record from college, and pretending like it matters because in the NFL losses matter..makes no sense.

 

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Who the fug honestly thinks anyone world wide just randomly hires people they know nothing about to help navigate them life...the supreme ignorance and stupidity that must take...ffs.

Hey I am about to sink or swim with this let me give this random person I know nothing about the life line. ROFL

Tepper had a 5 hour conversation with Matt Rhule and gave him a 70m contract. Do you think they were old college buddies? Dumbest post I've seen in a long time.