Nepotism will torpedo the Matt Rhule era before it starts

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

1 minute ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I wish I could have the blind faith that many of you people have but if we're talking logically here how much NFL experience do these two coaches have between them? Not very much at all is it? Is that a guarantee they fail? No of course not but it gives us every reason to be skeptical because history has shown us the NFL isn't to kind to the inexperienced. So yes there will be some of us that don't share the blind faith like many of you "real" fans have and hey if it helps you people to sleep better at night telling yourselves its okay for Rhule and his college organization to blow things up and suck for the foreseeable future, fine by me. I just don't see the enjoyment in that

That has nothing to do with the OP's topic in this thread, though.

I don't think people are saying to have blind faith that Rhule/Shaw will be great.  Interesting that people can have the "blind faith" that Rhule/Shaw will be bad though, and apparently THAT blind faith is ok.

But the OP specifically stated nepotism.  Implying that Shaw does not meet the qualifications to even have the job.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

1 minute ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

That has nothing to do with the OP's topic in this thread, though.

I don't think people are saying to have blind faith that Rhule/Shaw will be great.  Interesting that people can have the "blind faith" that Rhule/Shaw will be bad though, and apparently THAT blind faith is ok.

But the OP specifically stated nepotism.  Implying that Shaw does not meet the qualifications to even have the job.

Hes talking about Snow in the OP, our defensive coordinator and yes I did not address "nepotism" directly i think we've used enough "big" words on the huddle for one day. But my post definitely had something to do with the relationship and NFL inexperience our new head coach and DC now share.

[hepcat]

9 minutes ago, joemac said:

Its not "blind faith".  Its called giving them a chance to do the job they were hired to do.  The ink is not even dry yet on his contract and people here are acting like its a foregone conclusion that hes going to fail and we will need a new coach in 3 years.

I did like the head coaching hire, mainly because it is different than our previous two head coaches. I'm willing to wait to see how the staff fills out, but these early reports on who is going to head up his staff are not promising to me.

To me, from seeing his track record, Phil Snow is not a good hire for DC. It seems too convenient and that Rhule won't challenge himself to be better. He's sticking with a guy he's comfortable with who might not be as qualified as many others to run the defense. 

Given the poor track record of college head coaches making the jump to the NFL, especially those that had minimal to no NFL coaching experience like Rhule, it's reasonable to be skeptical. I believe Rhule needs to surround himself with coaches with solid NFL experience to be successful. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

4 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Hes talking about Snow in the OP, our defensive coordinator and yes I did not address "nepotism" directly i think we've used enough "big" words on the huddle for one day. But my post definitely had something to do with the relationship and NFL inexperience our new head coach and DC now share

Ok.  And do you feel either are *UNQUALIFIED* for the job in Carolina?

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Just now, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Ok.  And do you feel either are *UNQUALIFIED* for the job in Carolina?

I don't think Rhule has that much experience as a HC of a major organization. In college sure Baylor is decent but that's it. Not to mention his record being something like 47-42? Just by looking at the facts yes I'd say hes underqualified maybe not exactly "unqualified" and I'd have to say the same thing about Snow as well.

The person who is the most underqualified in this whole scenario is Mr. Tepper. He is also very inexperienced in this entire process and leaned on Marty Hurny a great deal. So the inexperience from the owner down to the coaches makes me very skeptical that Rhule is going to come in here and build sustained success. I just don't see it. And that's fine that's my opinion you don't have to like it and you certainly don't have to agree with it. I just don't share the same optimism as others when talking about this hire

[Dex]

44 minutes ago, hepcat said:

No he didn’t, he just wanted to make a snarky comment. Didn’t contribute anything to the thread. Typical huddle bullshit

You made a shitty thread about a new head coach that hasn't even put his staff together yet. You sir, have contributed nothing but bullshit and arrogance. So that's what you get.

 

On the low I kind of like you as a Huddler so I hope we can still be friends. Kisses.

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, Dex said:

You made a shitty thread about a new head coach that hasn't even put his staff together yet. You sir, have contributed nothing but bullshit and arrogance. So that's what you get.

 

On the low I kind of like you as a Huddler so I hope we can still be friends. Kisses.

Awwwwww.  I love a happy ending.

[MHS831]

Let's take a breath and step back.  What have we learned today?
We examined the word nepotism and the complexity of its meaning.  That is a good thing.  If we learned to master just one word per day, how much more extensive would our vocabularies be?  Much more better.

We also learned how many dictionary sources there are to Google, and just how differently they choose to define words.  You can be a dic.com guy or a Webster's believer, but we need to focus on the similarities of the words, not the differences.  That is how we become less divisive---(another word for another day).

Aside from that, nobody learned poo about the Panthers, except some fans can be dicks.

[KatsAzz]

Tepper hired Matt Rhule to be the Panthers Head Coach because he is a winner. I feel sure Matt will get input on his coaching hires and  there may some  selections that we may not make if we were the head coach but will work out  for him. If Tepper has great confidence in his decision making that is good enough for me until proven wrong.

[bababoey]

Can we stop with the nepotism crap.  Bill Belichick hired Saban as his DC at Cleveland because he coached with Bill's Dad at Navy and he knew him and trusted him.  That worked out ok.  He even hired his son, Stephen Belichick, which is the definition of nepotism.  He has been an assistant at NE since 2012.  He is the current secondary coach and defensive play caller.  I think Bill is doing ok in NE

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, Ship said:

I agree, my biggest concern is Snow. He might be a smart college DC and I don’t care about the Lions. At least he has been in the NFL before. But I just worry about Luke, Shaq, Reid, etc. buying into this guy. Feels like Mickey Mouse telling a GI Joe what to do. Maybe he proves me wrong and is great. I’m just very worried about him leading our guys and carrying on our defensive tradition.

I will be hard for him to live up to Eric Washington, that's for sure.

[top dawg]

Nepotism is not necessarily a negative in all instances. In fact, it can be a positive in many instances. If men or women of character are involved, sometimes it's advantageous.

[Jacabee]

Rhule was brought in to oversee a radical overhaul of this team's culture, which includes a major turnover in personnel. Given his background at Temple and Baylor, this seems like his most attractive selling point (and probably heavily weighted by Tepper-- the way the McDaniels interview was handled given McDaniels's reputation is telling).

Rhule bringing in someone he trusts, someone that understands the "Process" he seeks to implement and someone that is qualified for the position to help implement and stabilize the transition is a reasonable extension of Rhule doing that for which he was hired. 

It remains to be seen whether it's the most effective decision; there is the obvious concern that these two lack the knowledge of the nuances of running an NFL team that only come with experience. But, these moves aren't made in a vacuum. The experience gap may very well be addressed by bringing in someone else to specifically fill that role. 

[ickmule]

Please stop.......we haven't even seen the panthers practice under Rhule and already we are bashing him.