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Nepotism will torpedo the Matt Rhule era before it starts


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9 minutes ago, hepcat said:

God damn it do I need to educate everyone on the definition of nepotism?

 

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Nepotism - by definition, assumes that the family or close friend is less qualified to do the job.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism

Borrowed from the French term 'Nepotisme', which in turn was derived from Italian 'Nepotismo' and the Latin 'nepōs' (nephews), nepotism refers to the practice of popes appointing relatives during the Middle Age and Renaissance.[3] The term comes from the Italian word nepotismo,[4][5] which is based on the Latin word nepos (nephew).[6]

Nepotism refers to partiality to family whereas cronyism refers to partiality to a partner or friend. Favoritism, the broadest of the terms, refers to partiality based upon being part of a favored group, rather than job performance.

Now maybe you can argue favoritism in case of Rivera or even Rhule if he hires or keeps someone even when they suck at their job.  

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The only particularly concerning thing I've seen so far is Rhule's "I don't fire coordinators"... I hope this is less about faith in people and more about the fact he's been successful enough with the people he initially hires, and that if one of our units struggles, he'll make the changes he needs.

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1 minute ago, NAS said:

Nepotism - by definition, assumes that the family or close friend is less qualified to do the job.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism

Borrowed from the French term 'Nepotisme', which in turn was derived from Italian 'Nepotismo' and the Latin 'nepōs' (nephews), nepotism refers to the practice of popes appointing relatives during the Middle Age and Renaissance.[3] The term comes from the Italian word nepotismo,[4][5] which is based on the Latin word nepos (nephew).[6]

Nepotism refers to partiality to family whereas cronyism refers to partiality to a partner or friend. Favoritism, the broadest of the terms, refers to partiality based upon being part of a favored group, rather than job performance.

Now maybe you can argue favoritism in case of Rivera or even Rhule if he hires or keeps someone even when they suck at their job.  

Yes, the whole point of this thread is to bring up the fact the old head coach blatantly hired his friends and even family members of other coaches.

The new coach is rumored to be bringing in guys he is close with, who might not necessarily be the most qualified for the job.

I don't want to see it happen again.

But y'all can keep trying to debate the definition of the word with me, sure. 

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Bob Ladouceur is surpassed by only a few names all time in high school football across the country when it comes to wins. Nationally ranked high school teams, repeatedly.

Hell, Jack Holley, another guy who won more games than any coach in the history of NC high school football, never coached in college. These coaches and many more like them had the resume to coach at a college...if they wanted.

Advancement is not an assumed motivator for coaches like it is players.

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1 hour ago, hepcat said:

Our previous head coach stuck with comfortable bros he had worked with for way too long and it tanked the team into oblivion.

Although he has not done so yet, all indications are that Matt Rhule is bringing in all guys he has worked with before to fill out the staff. Not sure if he will be interviewing any other coaches from around the league to fill his staff. But I hope so.

I think Sean Ryan from the Lions looks like a strong up and comer and could be a great hire as offensive coordinator. At least he has been working away from Rhule for a bit to continue growing as a coach.

I think hiring Phil Snow, a retirement age journeyman coach who has never had success at the NFL level seems like a failure of a hire. He is 64 years old and has never coached anything more than the linebacker position at the NFL level, for the 0-16 2008 Lions of all teams.

I hope Tepper or someone from the Panthers staff is reading this. Don't hire who is comfortable!!! Get outside the box. The last coaching staff did what was comfortable. For the love of god and all that is holy, don't make the same mistakes of the last coach.

EDIT: Adding the definition of "nepotism" since it seems necessary based on the responses so far.

 

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There may be arguably better candidates out there than Phil Snow overall for our DC position.  But, it is hard to argue he strictly is not qualified to be given a shot as DC in the NFL.  Doesn't mean he will succeed, and, IMO, that is where the real test is.

It is hard to argue that hiring Snow as a DC is nepotism.  He has succeeded as  DC in college.  He has some (limited) NFL coaching experience, but he has done well as of late in college and the HC is familiar with him.  I don't see this as nepotism.

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I agree, my biggest concern is Snow. He might be a smart college DC and I don’t care about the Lions. At least he has been in the NFL before. But I just worry about Luke, Shaq, Reid, etc. buying into this guy. Feels like Mickey Mouse telling a GI Joe what to do. Maybe he proves me wrong and is great. I’m just very worried about him leading our guys and carrying on our defensive tradition.

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