REPORT: Rapoport reports Baylor DC Phil Snow is expected to follow Panthers coach Matt Rhule to Carolina

[ncfan]

Remember 

Rhule said he is going to have a solid combo of college coaches mixed with experienced NFL guys.  

I fully expect him to bring in some vet to help Snow.

[lightsout]

1 hour ago, mjligon said:

He was an NFL assistant coach once, with the Lions (who by the way fielded the worst NFL team ever during that timeframe).

His resume isn’t pretty. Was hoping Rhule would bring him on in an assistant role and someone with more NFL clout in as DC.

NFL assistant once.

4 different schools as a DBs coach for a total of 9 years.

26 years across 8 different programs as a DC or co-DC, promoted from position coach to DC at 4 of those.

Yeah, no power schools in there but to say that his resume isn't pretty is ridiculous. Nobody coaches for that long in DI schools and gets opportunities to be DC if they don't show something.

Plenty of coaches have clout and come in and poo the bed. Coaches coach. Period. I am withholding all judgment until I see a product on the field. He may be awful, in which case I hope we remedy that. But to say "well, he never coached an SEC defense or something comparable so I have no faith in him" is silly. Maybe to this point, Snow hasn't wanted an NFL job. Some coaches prefer the college game. I know plenty of GREAT HS coaches who never had interest in coaching at the collegiate level. Easy to assume some college coaches don't really care for coaching the pro game. If he does come, I think that would say more about his relationship with Rhule.

[Cary Kollins]

9 hours ago, Jesse said:

Fellas,

 

One of the fellow coaches on the football staff I’m on was a rising senior at Temple back in 2013. He said that coach Rhule has had the same philosophy and attitude since he met him ~7 years ago. He’s told me stories about how he had to use some tough love to get the senior class to buy in.  He’s told me nothing but great stuff since we were in a clinic last winter with his OL coach

 

He told me coach Snow is the greatest defensive mind he’s been around. He learned more in that one season with Snow than he has with anyone else. This is a coworker and friend I wholeheartedly trust and believe that he says what he means. I think we found some special people with Rhule and (allegedly) Snow coming to Charlotte. 

Fwiw I was browsing Baylor message boards discussing Snow leaving, and they are pissed. They were hoping Snow would be promoted to HC. Seems those fans felt a big part of their success was due to Snow. Coach Rhule obviously feels the same.

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If this has already been posted, I apologize but this isn't something to scoff at. Don't forget, they had the best defensive showing against Oklahoma in the last 3 years.

https://footballscoop.com/news/phil-snow-2019-footballscoop-defensive-coordinator-of-the-year/

 

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The Bears’ 2019 performance was part of a 3-year turnaround. For instance, in Snow’s first year in Waco, his defense ranked 117th nationally in yards per play. Last year was slightly worse, 119th. This year’s defense? It ranked 20th.

Scoring defense told a similar story, where the Bears moved from 114th in 2017, to 91st last season, to 18th in 2019.

... As a point of reference: Baylor’s 2019 defense is one of just two Big 12 defenses in the past five years to hold their opponents under 20 points per game. Baylor was also the only Big 12 defense to hold opponents under five yards per play. Opponents ran the ball 547 times for an even 2,000 yards — a 3.66 yards per carry average that was the worst in the Big 12. Opposing passers didn’t fare much better, completing 60.2 percent of their 485 passes for 3,046 yards (6.3 per attempt) with 15 touchdowns against 17 interceptions, good for a 116.16 efficiency rating that put Baylor once again atop the Big 12.

Sure, it's the Big 12. Fine. But his defense was top 10 nationally in sacks and turnovers as well. He knows what he is doing.

[Ja Rhule]

10 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Nothing a little plastic surgery can’t fix

 

[lightsout]

This clip shows a lot.
 

So if he brings what he did at Baylor here, we're sticking with 3-4. Which means finding talent up front to play it (we really do not have a traditional NT and we need that, but we're set at edge and LB IMO. May get another LB to help round out, if anything, and we need some security at strong safety).

What we see here is a fast, attacking defense. Not one that waits, not one that is focused a lot on trying to just close up a gap. Find your gap, get downhill if you're a linebacker or a safety rolling down. Set the edge, collapse. This is all where we failed last season, and a good bit of it came from really bad alignment decisions at times, and others just having OL get second level because we weren't good enough up front at keeping the OL busy. But just imagine Luke and Shaq in their respective roles here.

[Proudiddy]

Nothing instills more confidence in fixing one of the worst defenses in NFL history than putting a DC from the Big 12 in charge if them. 

[raz]

10 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

that's the look a grandpa has when his little grand baby digs up some really nice worms for a fishing trip.   i like it

[Black&Blue]

Bringing along your college DC while the NFL is trending back towards traditional, pro style offenses feels likes an ill-advised decision. 

[raz]

3 minutes ago, Black&Blue said:

Bringing along your college DC while the NFL is trending back towards traditional, pro style offenses feels likes an ill-advised decision. 

i think its smart, but rhule shooting out jesus rays all over the place may have infected me

[hepcat]

Phil Snow was the LBs coach for the 2008 Detroit Lions who went 0-16 

WTF are we doing with this guy

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, Black&Blue said:

Bringing along your college DC while the NFL is trending back towards traditional, pro style offenses feels likes an ill-advised decision. 

Maybe. But there’s an underlying assumption in that idea that said DC isn’t adaptable. The sum total of what I know about Phil Snow is that he’s an interesting looking fellow for an NFL coordinator and that’s about it. He may prove highly adaptable, he may not.

But by golly I expect to get plenty of fishing, noodling, moonshine and NASCAR jokes in over the next few seasons. Am I being fair to him? Probably not, but if one southern redneck can’t make fun of another man for looking like a southern redneck, then what is this world coming to?

[raz]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Maybe. But there’s an underlying assumption in that idea that said DC isn’t adaptable. The sum total of what I know about Phil Snow is that he’s an interesting looking fellow for an NFL coordinator and that’s about it. He may prove highly adaptable, he may not.

But by golly I expect to get plenty of fishing, noodling, moonshine and NASCAR jokes in over the next few seasons. Am I being fair to him? Probably not, but if one southern redneck can’t make fun of another man for looking like a southern redneck, then what is this world coming to?

i was thinking illinois redneck looking, but you may be right

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Phil Snow was the LBs coach for the 2008 Detroit Lions who went 0-16 

WTF are we doing with this guy

I mean, do you put an awful season on the linebackers coach? Seems a bit much. Did he have any talent to work with at all?  Should any coach involved with an awful season be banned for life from the league?