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Okudah is the perfect Rhule draft pick

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MHS831 Grand Master

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At the moment, we have a pretty nice chunk of change in the cap box---Marty will spend it quickly, but for now, we have cap room ($30m) If Olsen retires and they release Poe, we have about $20m more.  To talk about who you have to take in the draft, when we could easily have $50-70m in cap room, depending on what they do with Cam, is pointless.

Let's say we re-sign Bradberry and Addison and have $30m left.  Cam is healthy.  You sign a DT, a G, and a S in free agency--all starters.  Your OL coach tells you that Little will be ready to step in at LT this fall--he simply needs a camp and some coaching.   He feels that Paradis will be OK, but encourages some youth to groom at C.

Now how does the draft look?

Thinking:  "I do not need a starting OT as previously thought, I do not need a S, I do not need a G or 3tech DT.  I need a nose/1 tech DT, I could use a CB opposite Bradberry, and I could use a WR. 

Suddenly, Jeudy and Okudah are looking pretty dang good.

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8 minutes ago, emcannon said:

Agreed. Even if he's not a bust, I don't think we have to be married to Little at LT. He can play other spots on the OL & Thomas would be a clear upgrade there.

I think he needs to be moved to G.  He has less to work on to become a top G>

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18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

At the moment, we have a pretty nice chunk of change in the cap box---Marty will spend it quickly, but for now, we have cap room ($30m) If Olsen retires and they release Poe, we have about $20m more.  To talk about who you have to take in the draft, when we could easily have $50-70m in cap room, depending on what they do with Cam, is pointless.

Let's say we re-sign Bradberry and Addison and have $30m left.  Cam is healthy.  You sign a DT, a G, and a S in free agency--all starters.  Your OL coach tells you that Little will be ready to step in at LT this fall--he simply needs a camp and some coaching.   He feels that Paradis will be OK, but encourages some youth to groom at C.

Now how does the draft look?

Thinking:  "I do not need a starting OT as previously thought, I do not need a S, I do not need a G or 3tech DT.  I need a nose/1 tech DT, I could use a CB opposite Bradberry, and I could use a WR. 

Suddenly, Jeudy and Okudah are looking pretty dang good.

yup

a couple good moves in FA and we can afford to grab BPA in the draft. this team isn't as far off as people assume.

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10 minutes ago, caatfan said:

I'm seeing a lot of mocks showing the Lions grabbing this guy with the 3rd pick.

If they stay in the #3 slot, this seems like a plausible scenario. Lots of chatter about the Lions possibly being willing to trade back also.

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23 minutes ago, emcannon said:

If they stay in the #3 slot, this seems like a plausible scenario. Lots of chatter about the Lions possibly being willing to trade back also.

Raiders want a QB and would go out on a limb to get Tua from Alabama.  Give up the 12th and the 19th to move to 3rd.

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Haven’t done any research at all yet, but just knowing the team I want the top player at OT, DT, or CB in that order at #7. The best of one of those three positions is bound to be available at 7. In the second, top C available or any other lineman. If value isn’t there in the trenches with our second, then the best DB available. That’s pretty much it for my wants at this point. 

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He's good

 

But when you have the worst DL in Football, with the leagues worst run defense

And the leagues 3rd worst pass protection OL.

 

Your team is going to be terrible.

 

Games are won in the trenches, and we are the leagues worst at both sides.

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I get it---I want Brown (but would take Wirfs--my favorite tackle in the draft--or Thomas IF we know for certain that Little is a bust (we have not seen enough to know that--he has  missed too much to judge him on such a small body of work) --Hope we sign Bradberry.  To be honest, it is really pointless to debate who we are going to pick until later in March--after free agency.

I get that you think we shouldn’t give up on Little yet and I’m inclined to agree to a point, but my thinking is that if we bring Cam back, we cannot let the franchise qb’s health rest on that uncertainty. If Cam returns and Thomas or Wirfs are available at 7, I think the smartest thing you can do is take on3 of those guys to maximize the chance of extending Cam’s career and effectiveness.

If Cam isn’t gonna be here or both top tackles are off the board, I do like the CB, as I think the drop off between him and later round cb propects is greater than the drop off from Brown to later round DT’s. I also think Varkings point about how well he would fit Rhule’s system is valid.

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2 hours ago, emcannon said:

If the #7 pick is anything other than OT or DT, something has gone horribly wrong.

We're not one piece away from a Super Bowl. There's no one OT or DT that will fix our team. There's not even a garuntee the only top 10 OT on the board will be there when we pick.

I don't think Okudah makes it past the Lions (of course, it's only January.) But goddamn you don't build a team by just looking at your biggest weakness and going "WE HAVE TO FIX THIS."

WR, Secondary, IOL, and IDL are our big needs. If we can get one of those in the top 10 we've improved as a team.

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