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[Prowler2019]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Quick word on James Campen...

When you think of names like Brian Bulaga, David Bakhtiari, Corey Linsley, TJ Lang and others, this is the guy who coached them from 2007 through 2018. He was let go only because he was part of Mike McCarthy's staff.

Don't judge him by his year in Cleveland under Freddie Kitchens. This would be a solid hire.

Good to know. Would rather have him aboard than Flaherty. 

[Basbear]

The level of positive optimism it takes to defend having half the staff as baylor coaches, is beyond any known number or word.

If Rhule hired middle school coaches form team sister of the poor, you loons would defend that too. "You see the game is evolving where players are young enough to need these coaches, Rhule is breaking the old coach model!!!11!!1!" Waaaaayyy ahead of the times, hes coaching 9d chess you hater!!!1!!!"

[Tarheel119]

25 minutes ago, Basbear said:

The level of positive optimism it takes to defend having half the staff as baylor coaches, is beyond any known number or word.

If Rhule hired middle school coaches form team sister of the poor, you loons would defend that too. "You see the game is evolving where players are young enough to need these coaches, Rhule is breaking the old coach model!!!11!!1!" Waaaaayyy ahead of the times, hes coaching 9d chess you hater!!!1!!!"

True, however, the level of negativity is a little much too. I think most are taking a wait and see approach. 

[Pazhoosier89]

45 minutes ago, Basbear said:

The level of positive optimism it takes to defend having half the staff as baylor coaches, is beyond any known number or word.

If Rhule hired middle school coaches form team sister of the poor, you loons would defend that too. "You see the game is evolving where players are young enough to need these coaches, Rhule is breaking the old coach model!!!11!!1!" Waaaaayyy ahead of the times, hes coaching 9d chess you hater!!!1!!!"

Go cheer for Ron and his all pro staff.  Maybe wait and see before you declare them all incompetent. A good coach is a good coach know matter what level they are at.

[1of10Charnatives]

11 hours ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Go cheer for Ron and his all pro staff.  Maybe wait and see before you declare them all incompetent. A good coach is a good coach know matter what level they are at.

Not entirely true. There are different elements to being a “good coach”. One of them is being able to recruit players and motivate them to play for you. At the college level this skill is enormously important, as evidenced by the two most skilled recruiters running the two most dominant programs at Clemson and Alabama. At the NFL level, this skill is nearly irrelevant, as demonstrated by how one of these coaches, Nick Saban, flopped horribly as a pro coach, yet was dominant before and after at the college level.

X and O coaching is clearly the more transferable skill, so the question with regards to Rhule and his staff will be “ Are they better than their peers at X and O coaching?” The Brady hire inspires a lot of confidence based on his recent accomplishments, others are more questionable, but we shall see in the long run.

[raz]

42 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Not entirely true. There are different elements to being a “good coach”. One of them is being able to recruit players and motivate them to play for you. At the college level this skill is enormously important, as evidenced by the two most skilled recruiters running the two most dominant programs at Clemson and Alabama. At the NFL level, this skill is nearly irrelevant, as demonstrated by how one of these coaches, Nick Saban, flopped horribly as a pro coach, yet was dominant before and after at the college level.

X and O coaching is clearly the more transferable skill, so the question with regards to Rhule and his staff will be “ Are they better than their peers at X and O coaching?” The Brady hire inspires a lot of confidence based on his recent accomplishments, others are more questionable, but we shall see in the long run.

i really can't stand saban and how he took scotty o'brien from us and used him as a locker room spy, and his control freak schtick didn't really seem to work in the nfl - however if those dr's had cleared brees to be hired he may still be in the nfl and also be very successful

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, raz said:

i really can't stand saban and how he took scotty o'brien from us and used him as a locker room spy, and his control freak schtick didn't really seem to work in the nfl - however if those dr's had cleared brees to be hired he may still be in the nfl and also be very successful

Meh.

We’ll never know, but I tend to lean towards the theory that if one players presence or absence is the difference between you making it as an NFL head coach or not, even if that player is a future HOFer, you probably weren’t NFL material. NFL HC’s have to be able to adapt and overcome the loss of any player. Maybe not win the super bowl ,but do well enough not to get fired.

[Moo Daeng]

I'm concerned Rhule doesnt  have the connections to get many experienced NFL coaches. This is going a bit slow.

[Wolfcop]

2 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I'm concerned Rhule doesnt  have the connections to get many experienced NFL coaches. This is going a bit slow.

Coughlin, who put together a staff that wo. Super Bowls, told Rhule to take his time and get the right guys. Why rush it?

[Mr. Scot]

Rhule told Alex Marvez there are only "one or two spots" left to fill. There is someone know about that haven't been officially announced yet.

Quarterback coach and offensive line coach are obviously the big ones that seem to still be open. I could see us also getting an assistant offensive line coach but other than that the staff is nearly done.

[PanthersBigD]

4 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Not entirely true. There are different elements to being a “good coach”. One of them is being able to recruit players and motivate them to play for you. At the college level this skill is enormously important, as evidenced by the two most skilled recruiters running the two most dominant programs at Clemson and Alabama. At the NFL level, this skill is nearly irrelevant, as demonstrated by how one of these coaches, Nick Saban, flopped horribly as a pro coach, yet was dominant before and after at the college level.

X and O coaching is clearly the more transferable skill, so the question with regards to Rhule and his staff will be “ Are they better than their peers at X and O coaching?” The Brady hire inspires a lot of confidence based on his recent accomplishments, others are more questionable, but we shall see in the long run.

I don't believe the Nick Saban comparison is appropriate in this case. Nick Saban and Dabo Swinney are working with stacks of 5-star talent, recruited on the strength of their schools. Their bench is 3 and 4 deep at many positions.  Both are known to bully their players by holding their scholarships and playing time over their heads. This does not translate to the NFL, where many players make more than the coaches. 

Rhule got the most out of a less talented pool of players by finding guys with specific strengths and coaching them up and putting them in position to excel. Talent evaluation and the ability to coach up players will always translate to the next level.

[TheRed]

17 hours ago, Basbear said:

The level of positive optimism it takes to defend having half the staff as baylor coaches, is beyond any known number or word.

If Rhule hired middle school coaches form team sister of the poor, you loons would defend that too. "You see the game is evolving where players are young enough to need these coaches, Rhule is breaking the old coach model!!!11!!1!" Waaaaayyy ahead of the times, hes coaching 9d chess you hater!!!1!!!"

These "I'm smarter than everyone else in the room, and I'm definitely not upset that almost everyone disagrees with me" takes make for a very amusing morning read.

How have you not already been hired by an NFL front office for your expertise yet?

[Basbear]

22 hours ago, Tarheel119 said:

True, however, the level of negativity is a little much too. I think most are taking a wait and see approach. 

I'm there too, just right now these hires have more than a few questions. This would be history in the making having half of the staff baylor guys and win. I think after one year, Rhule will need to hire another group. I hope this is the new Walsh coaching tree.

[Basbear]

5 hours ago, TheRed said:

These "I'm smarter than everyone else in the room, and I'm definitely not upset that almost everyone disagrees with me" takes make for a very amusing morning read.

How have you not already been hired by an NFL front office for your expertise yet?

Im the best there is, just not available.