Matt Rhule is not into analytics, and his offensive philosophy is archaic and inefficient

[ickmule]

Don't care as long as we win.....I'm actually excited about this and very happy Tepper didn't hire McDorkials....Time will tell, but so far what I have heard on radio talks shows has me feeling this may have been a good hire. 

[Moo Daeng]

Are you simply equating analytics with aggressive or risky play calling? 

[bobowilson]

24 minutes ago, trueblade said:

. At Baylor, he had a program and staff that was focused on using sports science and player development to help the team’s performance. The Applied Performance Department used data and other research to help all athletes at Baylor perform to the best of their ability. There’s no doubt that Rhule’s desire to build a similar type of group with the Panthers aligned with Tepper’s vision.

Scott Fowler, The Charlotte Observer: Matt Rhule isn’t an ‘offensive genius.’ He’s a fixer, and the Panthers need fixing

This was in Scott's thread of Rhule links. I didn't even have to leave the board to find it. 

Sports science =/ analytics

 

[davos]

1 minute ago, bobowilson said:

Sports science =/ analytics

 

Well it's apparently what Tepper wanted who wanted what he wanted and he's the coach now.  Are we trying to say Tepper is pulling a facade? Or just saying he wants analytics? Or that he misinterpreted his hire?  I mean, what are we trying to say here? 

And since it's January, maybe just maybe we should reserve judgement until things are actually implemented and done and not try to guess-timate about what he will do based on his collegiate track record. 

[carpanfan96]

10 minutes ago, davos said:

Well it's apparently what Tepper wanted who wanted what he wanted and he's the coach now.  Are we trying to say Tepper is pulling a facade? Or just saying he wants analytics? Or that he misinterpreted his hire?  I mean, what are we trying to say here? 

And since it's January, maybe just maybe we should reserve judgement until things are actually implemented and done and not try to guess-timate about what he will do based on his collegiate track record. 

Tepper explained clearly what he wanted.  An old school approach blended with analytics.  Run first is an old school approach and that is what Rhule is at heart. He'll adapt if needed and used analytics at Baylor for player health and recovery.  

 

Rhule is exactly the kind of coach that Tepper had in mind when he mentioned that.  

[davos]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

Tepper explained clearly what he wanted.  An old school approach blended with analytics.  Run first is an old school approach and that is what Rhule is at heart. He'll adapt if needed and used analytics at Baylor for player health and recovery.  

 

Rhule is exactly the kind of coach thatTepper had in mind when he mentioned that.  

Yep, that's inferred in my condescending post. 

[carpanfan96]

1 minute ago, davos said:

Yep, that's inferred in my condescending post. 

Meant to quote the other guy but have a massive migraine.  Ignore. Lmao

[Moo Daeng]

Its going to be a painful 7 or 8 months of pre emptive whining before there is anything to whine about.

Though this will be the most interesting offseason in a long time.

Maybe the OP can take the time to understand what analytics  is.

[Moo Daeng]

Also it would be safe to assume Baylor didnt have an MIT analyst and administration both interested in analytics personally who is willing to invest in the concept.

Tepper said he wanted a guy open to analytics and modern processes while rooted in sound football. How can you say that Rhule isnt open to those things? Were you in the room when they discussed this?  If they hit it off on this idea and knowing his diverse football background it appears he fits exactly what Tepper stated. Especially considering he hired him and all.

[SBiii]

6 hours ago, zacka77ack said:

You morons are hunting for something that is not actually what Tepper said. Tepper said he wants OLD SCHOOL FOOTBALL DISCIPLINE. Those of you confused why we hired Rhule, who doesn't appear to be the next Wiz Kid coach, because you think Tepper has been preaching nothing but "Analytics" need to work on your comprehension skills.

Spot on my man.

This whole "analytics" theme as it relates to Tepper has been COMPLETELY overblown.

Tepper's money management expertise hinged on fundamental analysis -- not some sort of algorithmic trading strategy. 

(akin to traditional coaching/decision making vs. some sort of chart based decision for every play call in a game)

[Moo Daeng]

Plus people have for some odd reason decided that analytics means risky wacky play calling and taking chances. .

[1of10Charnatives]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Also it would be safe to assume Baylor didnt have an MIT analyst and administration both interested in analytics personally who is willing to invest in the concept.

Tepper said he wanted a guy open to analytics and modern processes while rooted in sound football. How can you say that Rhule isnt open to those things? Were you in the room when they discussed this?  If they hit it off on this idea and knowing his diverse football background it appears he fits exactly what Tepper stated. Especially considering he hired him and all.

To add to this I’m skeptical of the notion that the guy who wants a sports science program isn’t open to the use of analytics. At their core both things are about using information to gain a competitive edge. I just have a hard time picturing Rhule telling Tepper:

”Look, using math to make your players recover faster is great, but using math to make your play calling better? That’s just crazy talk.”

[SBiii]

16 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

To add to this I’m skeptical of the notion that the guy who wants a sports science program isn’t open to the use of analytics. At their core both things are about using information to gain a competitive edge. I just have a hard time picturing Rhule telling Tepper:

”Look, using math to make your players recover faster is great, but using math to make your play calling better? That’s just crazy talk.”

Sports Science = biology/chemistry

Analytics = math/computer science

 

Two completely different genres...

[Moo Daeng]

22 minutes ago, SBiii said:

Sports Science = biology

Analytics = math

It's all analysis. Why you think analytics would only mean one narrow application is on you.

One application analyzes numbers associated with how to maximize human performance. Another application would be how to maximize strategic decisions. There would be other forms of analysis for building a competitive roster like they did at Baylor and described by Rhule.

Nobody ever stated a single narrow definition of how analytics would be used. 

A great book that can explain how wide it can be applied is A Brief History of Economic Genius. Tepper was an Economics major as an undergraduate.