Update: Tua entering NFL draft

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Just now, Jus Rob said:

You've watched him play ?

Yes. Besides the games he was playing against teams like The Citadel ..

[Jus Rob]

Just now, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Yes. Besides the games he was playing against teams like The Citadel ..

Lol their schedule wasn't all that tuff this year 

[kungfoodude]

How did this thread get so needlessly aggressive and argumentative?

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

The bottom line is ..

If you're a QB entering the NFL draft - odds are you will suck in the NFL ..

Look at Wentz, Goff, Trubisky, Allen, Bortles, Mariota, Winston, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen ..

Trash ..

Odds are not good

[Rocky Davis]

The main thing with Tua's hip injury is going to be each team's evaluation of how his injury is healing and their review of his medical records. 

Avascular necrosis is what ended Bo Jackson's career as he basically had a partially dislocated hip and was able to get up from the tackle, the partial dislocation allowed him to bear weight and he didn't get it taken care of right away.  Since Bo didn't get treatment right away and get his hip joint "reduced" he basically allowed AVN to end his career.

Tua's injury was a complete dislocation and he wasn't able to bear weight.  He was airlifted to the hospital where he went into immediate surgery to reduce and repair his dislocation and fracture.  His chances of AVN later in life are increased due to the injury, but it shouldn't be an issue for 10-15 years.

I just wanted to clarify why this isn't a Bo Jackson type of situation.

I would take more of a bet on Tua than I would a QB who has had shoulder/elbow injuries.  I would also have my medical staff tape his ankles better than they did in college.  One last thing, I wouldn't draft him unless I had an O-line that could keep him upright in the pocket as he is much more of a pocket passer than a running QB.

[mav1234]

5 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

The bottom line is ..

If you're a QB entering the NFL draft - odds are you will suck in the NFL ..

Look at Wentz, Goff, Trubisky, Allen, Bortles, Mariota, Winston, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen ..

Trash ..

Odds are not good

Wentz is made of glass but a great QB (can't help the dirty hit to his head... some bullshit there), jury is still out on Darnold, Allen (Josh), Mayfield, and Goff IMO.  Trubisky is not trash just not worth where he was drafted.  Bortles was garbage.  Maybe Mariota and Winston just need a change of scenery like Tannehill, but definitely look disappointing now.

Odds of a QB being good if drafted in the 1st is certainly higher than if drafted in any other round, heh.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Wentz is made of glass but a great QB (can't help the dirty hit to his head... some bullshit there), jury is still out on Darnold, Allen (Josh), Mayfield, and Goff IMO.  Trubisky is not trash just not worth where he was drafted.  Bortles was garbage.  Maybe Mariota and Winston just need a change of scenery like Tannehill, but definitely look disappointing now.

Odds of a QB being good if drafted in the 1st is certainly higher than if drafted in any other round, heh.

I guess my point is that it isn't good to need a QB and I'm shocked how many people want to forget Cam and go into "..we need a QB.." mode ..

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

How did this thread get so needlessly aggressive and argumentative?

Because it's the Huddle. 

[Happy Panther]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because it's the Huddle. 

NO IT ISN'T

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because it's the Huddle. 

[mav1234]

41 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

I guess my point is that it isn't good to need a QB and I'm shocked how many people want to forget Cam and go into "..we need a QB.." mode ..

Ahh, that I agree with - I'd rather see if Cam can make it through this season and build the team around him.

[Varking]

Basically Tue was better last season than Burrow was this season. If healthy, Tua is better than Burrow. That being said, I am clear in that I am not sold on Burrow being an elite QB. 

[Wanderlai]

If he is there at 7 you almost have to take him. I don’t think he falls that far though. 

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

Basically Tue was better last season than Burrow was this season. If healthy, Tua is better than Burrow. That being said, I am clear in that I am not sold on Burrow being an elite QB. 

I respect your opinion but Tua is injury prone and Burrow was absolutely amazing this season.  What part of Burrows game makes you think he isn't an elite QB?  Outside of being a one year wonder of sorts I cant find holes in his game.

Tua, even healthy has question marks.  Lefties are tricky, he is shorter and doesn't have a huge arm either.  He is clearly amazingly accurate but his surrounding talent was incredible.