Never forget we traded up to passed on A.J Brown and D.K Metcalf in the second.

[Rocky Davis]

14 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Wirfs all day, every day.

And I'll admit I'm wrong if Little becomes a great player.  But I've watched him a lot over the last 4+ years and I don't think I'm gonna be wrong.

@tiger7_88 do you think he can even be a starting OG?  I haven't seen enough of him to pass any sort of judgement, but he showed flashed both good and bad at LT.  Could playing at OG hide some of his deficiencies?

[pantherclaw]

Crapshoot. 

[tiger7_88]

4 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

@tiger7_88 do you think he can even be a starting OG?  I haven't seen enough of him to pass any sort of judgement, but he showed flashed both good and bad at LT.  Could playing at OG hide some of his deficiencies?

As far as I know, he's never played guard at any point in his career, so I honestly don't know.

But I've always got the impression that he isn't a fan of being physical and he's definitely not a mauler, so (and again this is just my impression) I don't think either of those traits are conducive to a more PHYSICAL position on the interior of the OL.

Again, I hope I'm wrong.  But I've been underwhelmed by the kid for years.

[MHS831]

https://www.panthers.com/news/greg-little-and-dennis-daley-reflect-on-challenging-rookie-years

Here is the deal, If Little cannot play LT, there are no real deficiencies in his game that suggest he would not be a great guard.  You all have to let it play out--you do not replace him after a 2 concussion season in which he only played about 5 games.  Nobody here is qualified to determine he is a bust---you can guess, you can say you have seen all you need to see---but understand what that actually means in terms of talent evaluation----Nothing. Little is raw at T, closer to being ready at G---with some good coaching, he has a chance.  He is a boom or bust LT, but he could prosper at G after he learns the position.  It could help with the concussion issues too.

I strongly suggest that we address other needs (DT, WR, CB, C, etc.) and let the Tackle position mature. A talent like Brown, Jeudy, or Okudah is likely to be there---redrafting a T because our 2019 drafted T did not get a chance is silly.  We had 2 rookies there--they will be better next year, but if you draft another OT, you neglect a need where we have no developing depth. 

If we take a T, it is because we want Little to move inside to G.  If we upgrade 2 positions with one pick, Yes, do it.   However, I would address C now.  

I see taking a T now an overreaction.  If Little has to be moved inside, you have Daley at LT (who will be better in 2020). Maybe not Gross-level, but what do we have at DT?

What if we took Tua at #7.  Now Moton is your blind side.

The Huddle is on a feeding frenzy about T right now---maybe rightly so, but if Little has the stuff to play LT and simply needs an offseason, camp, and work with OL and strength coaches, we are hurting ourselves by drafting a T. 

We MIGHT need an OT in 2020; we have 2 rookies working to get better.  We KNOW we need DT, CB, WR, C, etc.  '

Just my opinion.

 

[45catfan]

9 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

@tiger7_88 do you think he can even be a starting OG?  I haven't seen enough of him to pass any sort of judgement, but he showed flashed both good and bad at LT.  Could playing at OG hide some of his deficiencies?

The Iowa OL has several condensed videos on YouTube of their OL playing this year.  Wirfs would be a BEAST at guard.  That's my concern projecting him to LT, he so bulky (not fat) that he's seems slightly limited in agility.  He looks like he lives in the gym.  Right now, I would be comfortable with him playing either guard position or RT.  I have to see him get work on the left side before I would feel comfortable projecting him there.

[Rocky Davis]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The Iowa OL has several condensed videos on YouTube of their OL playing this year.  Wirfs would be a BEAST at guard.  That's my concern projecting him to LT, he so bulky (not fat) that he's seems slightly limited in agility.  He looks like he lives in the gym.  Right now, I would be comfortable with him playing either guard position or RT.  I have to see him get work on the left side before I would feel comfortable projecting him there.

If he can't gain agility and slim down, I don't want to force a kid somewhere he doesn't need to be.  I mean that's RonBall right there and see where that got Williams and the team early in the season.  I don't think Williams ever recovered to be honest.

[Verge]

It's not like Greg Little has been awful guys, he still might be our starting LT if he can get healthy.

[GoPanthers123]

At least Little plays the position we needed, I’m not writing him off yet. 

[micnificent28]

I didnt realize how high the huddle was on Little lol wow.

[CmC2k]

Can they play LT?

[GoPanthers123]

2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I didnt realize how high the huddle was on Little lol wow.

Drafting WR is marginal upgrade, would sit on the bench or split targets with Moore.  Compare that to filling a hole on starting line, where we need a starter right now.

[top dawg]

To me, the whole premise of this thread relies on the fact that Little and our current receivers suck. Even as one who would've loved to pick Metcalf (and would've picked Deebo Samuel in the second), I do not yet believe in that premise. 

[KillerKat]

"hurr durrr hindsight" Keep seeing this a lot in threads that bring up better players that were picked after ours. It's only hindsight if you're stupid. 

[top dawg]

Just now, KillerKat said:

"hurr durrr hindsight" Keep seeing this a lot in threads that bring up better players that were picked after ours. It's only hindsight if you're stupid. 

The assertion that rookie receivers are better than a rookie O-lineman based off one season---especially when a difficult and potentially serious injury is involved---is not using the most thoughtful judgement. In fact, some might consider it downright stupid.