Redskins Poach Ryan Vermillion And John Matsko

[Tbe]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

I'm really trying to be kind here, but if you believe this you just aren't very bright.

There was actually a video during training camp where Scott Turner And Cam were talking about the new methods they were using to help Cam learn plays. I believe Cam said he often had trouble getting plays out. Either way, it was said that Cam often trips over his words and that had been a struggle. It’s not a knock on Cam, it was just something they needed to improve. 

[Tbe]

3 minutes ago, ickmule said:

When the skins finally have a winning season next season y’all gonna be making all kinds of excuses and none will admit Rivera had anything to do with it, but in reality he will have had a lot to do with it. 

Sure, but will they have two winning seasons in a row?

[ickmule]

Just now, Tbe said:

Sure, but will they have two winning seasons in a row?

Time will tell.  

[GoPanthers123]

Thanks for cleaning house for us Ron.  The coaching staff was part of the problem on a team that looked lazy and unprepared.

[KillerKat]

Good!

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, emcannon said:

Incorrect. Panthers added "game management" duties to one of the assistants last season (believe it was Sam Mills III?) because Rivera was having repeated problems with managing the clock. 

Rivera confirmed that Mills actually had those duties for a few years before he was officially given the title.

I'm far from a fan of Rivera, but it is fair to point out those clock management issues did suddenly disappear once Newton was no longer under center.

That doesn't make Newton a bad quarterback or anything but it does make it kind of hard to blame Rivera for the game management problems.

[TheRed]

10 minutes ago, Tbe said:

There was actually a video during training camp where Scott Turner And Cam were talking about the new methods they were using to help Cam learn plays. I believe Cam said he often had trouble getting plays out. Either way, it was said that Cam often trips over his words and that had been a struggle. It’s not a knock on Cam, it was just something they needed to improve. 

I do recall that. But we've seen Cam run the uptempo to significant success. If you want to say it's been an issue for a number of reasons sure. But our offense looked just as sluggish and slow throughout 2019 and Cam only played two games so let's not get carried away is all I'm saying.

[TheRed]

Did we not finish 5-11?

We hardly fielded a high powered offense. How many times did we get blown out again? 

If you're going this hard to prove Cam sucks in the huddle after watching what else we trotted out behind center you've got some kind of bias.

[Cookie Lyon]

I, for one, am ecstatic!

[GoPanthers123]

21 minutes ago, ickmule said:

When the skins finally have a winning season next season y’all gonna be making all kinds of excuses and none will admit Rivera had anything to do with it, but in reality he will have had a lot to do with it. 

They will improve to 8-8 and then go about the same every year after that.

[Sasquatch]

Matsko has been about everywhere. Vermillion is going back to where Fox got him.

[ickmule]

Just now, GoPanthers123 said:

They will improve to 8-8 and then go about the same every year after that.

I’m giving them 9-7 and the year after 1 or 2 games better.  

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

I, for one, am ecstatic!

I wouldn't call myself ecstatic, but other than Mills, I'm not exactly crying over anybody's departure.

Mills III may have only had a minimal impact as a coach but he was the last tangible tie we had to his dad. Losing that, and in a year when Sam is a Hall of Fame finalist no less, makes me sad.

[CMAC22]

53 minutes ago, raz said:

turns out that was cam's fault.   

Ron was atrocious at clock management why did tepper hire sam mills lll to help ron with clock management! Ron got an F in first grade on reading the clock and telling time!