Stefanski to interview

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

You can find people in the Pats organization who do the same for McDaniels. Its easy to compliment the people you work with publicly.

Doesn't seem like lip service if Zygi Wilf is highly considering canning Mike Zimmer (probably a top 8 coach) in order to not lose Stefanski.  The people who know him best are most worried about his departure.

Back in 2018, when Stefanski was just a quarterbacks coach, the Vikings blocked a request for him to interview for a coordinator position.  They've been really protective over this guy for a reason.

 

[Soul Rebel]

I was initially high on Stefanski due to his analytics, buzz and how the Vikes were performing earlier in the year. 

After seeing a majority of Vikings fans happy to let him go as a flash in the pan OC that needed help from Gary Kubiak, I’ve cooled off.

http://m.startribune.com/vikings-needed-help-and-gary-kubiak-was-perfect-guy-for-the-job/558864322/

Found this article to back it up. Any QBs coach with 1 year of OC experience that  needed a veteran former HC like Kubiak to make things hum, worries me.

[mav1234]

Just now, bobowilson said:

Yeah yeah yeah, go interview at one of the elite financial firms and peddle the 'opportunities' thing, and see how far you get with a mediocre resume.

Ultimately, this is Tepper's decision.

Why would I work in a financial firm?  I would never want to work in such an institution.  I also guarantee Tepper understands how access and opportunity shape early education and is not limiting his coaching search to *just* Ivy League folks, lol.

Nothing about Bienemy is a "mediocre" resume, anyway.  The concern with Stefanski is how short a time he has been OC.  Bienemy has other concerns for sure.  I wish I could be in the room for those interviews...

Then I could figure out how much Tepper actually cares about Stefanski's time at Penn ;)

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, bobowilson said:

I have no doubt McDaniels is a great offensive strategist, and he's right up there with Stefanski in designing innovative schemes.

The question with McDaniels has always been about his leadership skills, and this is where Stefanski has him beat.   People in the Vikings organization rave about what a good leader Stefanski has been.

Leadership skills?  Has he ever been a head coach at any level?

I'm not saying he doesn't have them but his resume doesn't really include them.

 

[bobowilson]

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

 

Nothing about Bienemy is a "mediocre" resume, anyway.  The concern with Stefanski is how short a time he has been OC.  Bienemy has other concerns for sure.  I wish I could be in the room for those interviews...

 

People don't realize he's 50 years old already and hasn't achieved anything.

Something else people don't discuss

Bienemy was offensive coordinator at the University of Colorado in 2012;  they went 1-11 and their offense was terrible.  So the only time he was ever given a chance to call plays, it ended in disaster.  The University of Colorado is not a terrible PAC-12 program.

Maybe mediocre is giving him too much credit.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Mage said:

Packers went 13-3.

Almost all those guys flopped.

Basically, the model wasn't successful.

[RumHam]

Nevermind, ill take this ahead of bienemy but these are the two that makes the most sense.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Almost all those guys flopped.

Basically, the model wasn't successful.

I think early returns on Kliff are good

Cardinals were garbage the year before, and he's set up a system that is allowing Kyler Murray to flourish.  I'm expecting a big leap from them next year.

 

[TheRumGone]

10 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

People don't realize he's 50 years old already and hasn't achieved anything.

Something else people don't discuss

Bienemy was offensive coordinator at the University of Colorado in 2012;  they went 1-11 and their offense was terrible.  So the only time he was ever given a chance to call plays, it ended in disaster.  The University of Colorado is not a terrible PAC-12 program.

Maybe mediocre is giving him too much credit.

 

You don’t have to lie or give half truths about a potential candidate to make others look better.

bieniemy was OC starting in 2011. Tell the full story. 2011 and 2012 buffs were TERRIBLE. They had dud games against top of the nation talent like Oregon and Stanford. Top 15 teams in the nation. That is a talent issue. We’re talking about the Colorado buffs for Christ sake. Bieniemy did extremely well with what he had to work with. If he did so terrible then why did Andy Reid hire him right after that abysmal 2012 season for the Buffs.
 

 

[bobowilson]

2 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

You don’t have to lie or give half truths about a potential candidate to make others look better.

 If he did so terrible then why did Andy Reid hire him right after that abysmal 2012 season for the Buffs.
 

 

 

He hired him to be a runnings back coach.  Have you ever seen what your typical RBs coach does on a daily basis.  I'm sure Andy Reid thought he had good motivational skills (and he does!).

But as an OC in college, he was terrible.  The record speak for themselves.  They're certainly a mediocre program, but not outright terrible (went to the Alamo Bown a few years ago), and were never as bad as when Bienemy was the OC.

If this guy was so brilliant, he should have been able to elevate a mediocre program in the PAC-12.

[TheRumGone]

Just now, bobowilson said:

He hired him to be a runnings back coach.  Have you ever seen what your typical RBs coach does on a daily basis.  I'm sure Andy Reid thought he had good motivational skills (and he does!).

But as an OC in college, he was terrible.  The record speak for themselves.  They're certainly a mediocre program, but not outright terrible (went to the Alamo Bown a few years ago), and were never as bad as when Bienemy was the OC.

If this guy was so brilliant, he should have been able to elevate a mediocre program in the PAC-12.

You’re putting the entire record on the offensive coordinator. That program has literally had one winning season in 10 years. They are an atrocious program because they don’t get any talent whatsoever. Look at the in game stats. He put up numbers with scrubs. 

[ForJimmy]

Tell him to bring Xavier Rhodes with him. If not Trae Waynes will do.

[Happy Panther]

48 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Leadership skills?  Has he ever been a head coach at any level?

 

Why do you have to be a head coach to have leadership skills?

[TheRumGone]

Also the only reason I’m getting into this with you is because you brush aside the worries about stefanski that you have with bieniemy. 
 

Stefanski absolutely has the chops to be a great coach. But treat each candidate fairly.