Cam's 333 Pass Yards vs. TB - Most By Panther QB in '19

[mav1234]

25 minutes ago, TheRed said:

This thread is silly but it is amusing seeing the Allen fanboys coming out of the woodwork to act like we didn't actually finish with 5 wins and get blown out multiple times.

Keep hanging your hat on that win streak I guess.

Who are the Allen fanboys?  Those of us commenting that he's not the future, isn't the answer, but happened to play better than an injured Cam Newton in some games?

This is a thread about Cam throwing for more yards than our other QBs in 2019.  That's true, but noting how meaningless it is makes us fanboys? Whatever.

[TheRed]

16 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Who are the Allen fanboys?  Those of us commenting that he's not the future, isn't the answer, but happened to play better than an injured Cam Newton in some games?

This is a thread about Cam throwing for more yards than our other QBs in 2019.  That's true, but noting how meaningless it is makes us fanboys? Whatever.

All I know is we sunk to the worst team in the league with Allen behind center.

Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Oh now you don't want to talk about divisional records?

How cute.

We practically have been a bye week for the rest of the division the last two seasons.  We have no divisional record.

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

All I know if we sunk to the worst team in the league with Allen behind center.

Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.

Cam Newton was something like 5-15 against divisional opponents since 2015.  Does that make him the reason we have been in the cellar in the division the last few years?

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Facts don't care about anyone's feelings.

So you would say unquestionably that Cam's game vs Tampa Bay was the best game of a Panthers QB in 2019?

Or would you say that there may be something more than yards at play for determining that?

Nobody is saying Allen is better than a healthy Cam.  But that isn't what this thread says.  You can continue making up crap to argue against, but we're responding to the OP here, and at least in my case, I dont' even know what moving goalposts you've established for this thread.

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Cam Newton was something like 5-15 against divisional opponents since 2015.  Does that make him the reason we have been in the cellar in the division the last few years?

Oh he's absolutely had a role in that as the starter. But I think it's a little more than disingenuous to take aim at him considering people were more than fine with him being our leading rusher in 2017 after we drafted a running back in the top 10 which if we're being honest the wear and tear from that season undoubtedly sped things up to where he is now with all the injury concerns.

As far as this thread, we all saw Cam missing receivers against Tampa Bay. The foot wasn't right clearly. Was it the shoulder too? That's the question. Unfortunately we won't know much for several months.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

58 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

they did later in the season and the panthers won comfortably you lunatic

When Kyle Allen was winning games rest assured, it was the rest of the team stepping up making Allen look good - like they didn't do when Cam was QB

[Sgt Schultz]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Oh he's absolutely had a role in that as the starter. But I think it's a little more than disingenuous to take aim at him considering people were more than fine with him being our leading rusher in 2017 after we drafted a running back in the top 10 which if we're being honest the wear and tear from that season undoubtedly sped things up to where he is now with all the injury concerns.

As far as this thread, we all saw Cam missing receivers against Tampa Bay. The foot wasn't right clearly. Was it the shoulder too? That's the question. Unfortunately we won't know much for several months.

That is the real downer about last season: we expected to have a verdict on Cam's shoulder by the end of the year.  Like most else in 2019, that didn't pan out, either.

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Oh he's absolutely had a role in that as the starter. But I think it's a little more than disingenuous to take aim at him considering people were more than fine with him being our leading rusher in 2017 after we drafted a running back in the top 10 which if we're being honest the wear and tear from that season undoubtedly sped things up to where he is now with all the injury concerns.

As far as this thread, we all saw Cam missing receivers against Tampa Bay. The foot wasn't right clearly. Was it the shoulder too? That's the question. Unfortunately we won't know much for several months.

I completely agree that the way in which we have run Cam into the ground and not built around him well has negatively influenced his success and the team's.  That is why the defensive melt down this year was so fuging frustrating.  And yet I could never blame Cam (any more than any other single player, that is) for the team doing poor against the division.

As to what I bolded, we saw it, but the OP still deemed it the best Carolina QB game of the year.  Which is asinine.  But we all hope Cam can completely recover because he is clearly better when healthy than any other option we have in the near future (and IMO that includes FAs and rookies we could draft).

[onmyown]

trying to make a comparison/argument that Cam is better than Allen in and of itself shows Allen wins to you

[DubE_4MR]

lol

[TheRed]

8 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I completely agree that the way in which we have run Cam into the ground and not built around him well has negatively influenced his success and the team's.  That is why the defensive melt down this year was so fuging frustrating.  And yet I could never blame Cam (any more than any other single player, that is) for the team doing poor against the division.

As to what I bolded, we saw it, but the OP still deemed it the best Carolina QB game of the year.  Which is asinine.  But we all hope Cam can completely recover because he is clearly better when healthy than any other option we have in the near future (and IMO that includes FAs and rookies we could draft).

Honestly I'm using this awful thread as an excuse for some early afternoon shitposting.

I am under no mistaken impressions about what the future holds for Newton in Carolina. I think we ultimately keep him for 2019 but the odds of this recent run of injuries for him suddenly turning around are pretty low. It really sucks but that's the sobering reality.