McDaniels: It’s between Cleveland and Carolina

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, ARSEN said:

So he’s like Sean Payton?

Lets settle for a nice guy like Rivera who cannot master back to back winning seasons in 10 years.

Arsen, you know better

imho Payton should have been banned from  the game for life for what he and Williams did

Just like a team doesn’t need troubled players, they don’t need mcDaniels.  Without Bellinchek, he is nothing

[Xtreme]

You have to be one brave mofo to go coach for Cleveland. 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

From what I've read, it tends to be some combination of the following...

- cheated in New England

- got caught trying to cheat in Denver

- made an ass of himself in Denver

- bailed on the Colts

- general personality

How valid those reasons are is up to the individual.

Imo, it shows a commitment to winning we've never seen here 

[Eazy-E]

Not a fan of the guy’s personality but give him a Healthy Cam and CMC and watch out.

[bobcat91]

Rather have him than McCarthy, Rhule or Bienemy. Hes a winner who I think has grown up after being humbled. Dont care what happened with him and the Colts. 

[rayzor]

I to think Bienimi would be a better guy to have as a coach and I think he would be ok, but McDaniels, for all of his slimy-ness, has the most high side of anyone.

If you want to shoot for the stars, he's the guy you want. 

Whether him or anyone else...if you don't get a ring in the first 5 years you need to start over anyways so why not take a shot?

[rayzor]

17 minutes ago, Kinographer said:

McDaniels is in his ear with data telling him exactly who to throw it to because he's been breaking down the defense all game and finding holes in it. It's almost like what McVay/Goff do.

I see the same thing happening, only with less of the one trick pony that mcvay brings. There's not a whole lot of diversity to mcvays offense.

Basically I would trust mcdaniel's ability to adapt than mcvay or just about anyone.

[1of10Charnatives]

45 minutes ago, bobcat91 said:

Rather have him than McCarthy, Rhule or Bienemy. Hes a winner who I think has grown up after being humbled. Dont care what happened with him and the Colts. 

What exactly makes you think he’s grown up? His experience in Denver came when he was in his early 30’s, which while it may be young for an NFL head coach, is a fully psychologically formed adult. Significant changes to personality or attitude tend to be rare this late in a person’s development. A holes tend to stay a holes, most often externalizing blame for their failures rather than accepting responsibility for them.

Absent any meaningful evidence to the contrary, I would suggest the default assumption should be he’s most likely still the same jerk, albeit one who has perhaps learned to try to hide it a little.

Do Not Want.

[Moo Daeng]

2 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

What exactly makes you think he’s grown up? His experience in Denver came when he was in his early 30’s, which while it may be young for an NFL head coach, is a fully psychologically formed adult. Significant changes to personality or attitude tend to be rare this late in a person’s development. A holes tend to stay a holes, most often externalizing blame for their failures rather than accepting responsibility for them.

Absent any meaningful evidence to the contrary, I would suggest the default assumption should be he’s most likely still the same jerk, albeit one who has perhaps learned to try to hide it a little.

Do Not Want.

You dislike him, that's fine. But's it's obvious your dislike is leading you to some absurd conclusions.

[1of10Charnatives]

13 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

You dislike him, that's fine. But's it's obvious your dislike is leading you to some absurd conclusions.

What’s absurd about challenging the notion without anything to support it that the default assumption about a person should be that they’ve changed after a negative experience?

The poster I was responding to says he thinks McDaniel has grown up, yet offers literally nothing to support this notion. My only contention is that I don’t think that should be the default assumption, and I offered my case why. Do you have literally anything you can offer to support the assertion McDaniel has changed? If not, why is my offering a case to the contrary so absurd?

No I do not like him. I don’t think I’ve been vague about that, but my dislike of him is not conjured out of thin air. It is actually based on something, unlike the assertion he must have changed.

[Verge]

I would be ecstatic if we get McDaniels, especially over Mike fugin McCarthy.

[Moo Daeng]

I dont see the bailing on the Colts as a really bad thing. When it was evident they had a disconnect he  stopped it before it got messier for both parties.  It was sure better than going forward with a major disconnect. 

[GoPanthers123]

We have higher draft pick, have cap space and can reboot easily with young core.  Browns are the place where dreams go to die.   It’s not even a choice just wants more money.

[Cavscout]

McDaniels was the OC in StLouis in 2011 before returning to the Patriots:

The Rams' offense was among the worst in the league in 2011. They scored only 193 points (12.1 points per game), last in the league, and 11th-fewest all-time.