Of the 4 candidates, I think only Eric Bieniemy will manage to command the respect Rivera had in the locker room

[raz]

is it greg's fault what his brother did?   the fault of rape lies with the rapist.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I agree, but to some degree they are all busily engaged by stupidly posting all their young dumb stuff to the internet for the entire world to see and look up for eternity. That seems smart. I'm sure it will end well for them.

Oh yeah, I am not saying they don't deserve some of the blame for being part of the invasion of their own privacy. But, you also have to kind of look at the adults on that one. We are the ones who invented those platforms, targeted to those demographics, exposed to them at an early enough age that they simply were not given a proper perspective about having privacy. It's not just young people who suffer from that. We are all being pretty duped into thinking we have any real privacy in the modern age. It's not conspiracy theory, it's just the way things are progressing. If I get to be an old man at some point, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. 

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Oh yeah, I am not saying they don't deserve some of the blame for being part of the invasion of their own privacy. But, you also have to kind of look at the adults on that one. We are the ones who invented those platforms, targeted to those demographics, exposed to them at an early enough age that they simply were not given a proper perspective about having privacy. It's not just young people who suffer from that. We are all being pretty duped into thinking we have any real privacy in the modern age. It's not conspiracy theory, it's just the way things are progressing. If I get to be an old man at some point, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out. 

I avoid social media like the plague for pretty much the reasons you stated, but then I'm a little extreme. Even as a teenager, I almost refused to date girls at my own high school because I didn't want my social life being other people's gossip. Privacy is largely a myth these days and you are right that it's on those of us who are adults who have built these privacy invading platforms. Sadly your best defense against this invasion is to lead a life no one wants to oggle.

[Mr. Scot]

32 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

I’m sold.

One thing I found kind of interesting about that story.

You'll notice Andy Reid doesn't say that he has the plays memorized, just that Bieniemy does.

[beastson]

Any old players who aint down to follow the new HC can go

Luke included

[mav1234]

39 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Bien has too problematic of a past with women to be hired in the MeToo era, especially with a politically progressive owner like Tepper

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6/18169793/bengals-coach-search-chiefs-eric-bieniemy-vance-joseph-broncos

doesn't seem his incidents have occurred in the last basically 2 decades or have anything to do with women... can't really fault a RB coach for the conduct of players at a university IMO, at least not without evidence of wrongdoing.

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

The second he left, Donte Jackson started mouthing off about the coaches and Vernon Butler started flipping off people.

valid point.

[bobowilson]

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

doesn't seem his incidents have occurred in the last basically 2 decades or have anything to do with women... can't really fault a RB coach for the conduct of players at a university IMO, at least not without evidence of wrongdoing.

Well he harassed and assaulted a woman leading him to be banned from campus

I don't care and don't think its a big deal, but we live in a sensitive era of history

Many people have been 'canceled' for less

[joeyxfresco]

35 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

I mean if Tepper wanted a guy who could win a room and command respect, he would have just kept Rivera, who does this better than anyone.

Is there anything suggestive of Bieniemy being familiar with analytics?

I don't believe there is

 

 

The interview someone referenced form the The Athletic said Bieniemy used analytics to game plan for the week 

[mav1234]

Just now, bobowilson said:

Well he harassed and assaulted a woman leading him to be banned from campus

I don't care and don't think its a big deal, but we live in a sensitive era of history

 

Almost 30 years ago he apparently harassed a parking attendant.  There is no evidence that this is a pattern of abusing women or, well, anyone for that matter - if anything, this could be a case of someone actually getting their poo together as they get older.

[Sam Mills Fan]

50 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Bien has too problematic of a past with women to be hired in the MeToo era, especially with a politically progressive owner like Tepper

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6/18169793/bengals-coach-search-chiefs-eric-bieniemy-vance-joseph-broncos

Not one of those things matter in 2020 except (potentially) the issue with the parking attendant. If I was looking to hire Bieniemy, I would want more information as to what happened there, but I would be shocked if it rose to the level of not hiring him.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Sam Mills Fan said:

Not one of those things matter in 2020 except (potentially) the issue with the parking attendant. If I was looking to hire Bieniemy, I would want more information as to what happened there, but I would be shocked if it rose to the level of not hiring him.

And the organization will be doing thorough background checks on people. This was just a ham handed attempt to discredit a candidate for who knows what reason. The article was even worse.

[1of10Charnatives]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

One thing I found kind of interesting about that story.

You'll notice Andy Reid doesn't say that he has the plays memorized, just that Bieniemy does.

What does this suggest to you?

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

Not one of those things matter in 2020 except (potentially) the issue with the parking attendant. If I was looking to hire Bieniemy, I would want more information as to what happened there, but I would be shocked if it rose to the level of not hiring him.

I think as a candidate for  high profile job you have an explanation and discussion about how you've grown based on anything significant, and I would bet he has one for the parking attendant ando ther various alcohol-related issues in his past.