Of the 4 candidates, I think only Eric Bieniemy will manage to command the respect Rivera had in the locker room

[AggieLean]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here are a couple of quotes about Bieniemy from a profile in The Athletic (link)

Every week during the season, Reid and Bieniemy review the offensive game plan they put together. Their laminated sheets contained more than 200 plays. Reid said Bieniemy memorizes every play, every formation.

“He goes, ‘No problem, got it,’” Reid said of Bieniemy, who he calls his right-hand man. “He’s a brilliant dude.”

Known for being an orator, Bieniemy is a vocal coach who can be an inspirational motivator and a demanding challenger of his players, often occurring in the same speech. The Chiefs’ adore Bieniemy for his creativity, his knowledge and his toughness.

I’m sold.

[bobowilson]

I mean if Tepper wanted a guy who could win a room and command respect, he would have just kept Rivera, who does this better than anyone.

Is there anything suggestive of Bieniemy being familiar with analytics?

I don't believe there is

 

 

[1of10Charnatives]

2 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

I’m sold.

Yeah that sounds amazing. Bartender, bring me a triple shot of Bienemy please. Hell it's the new year. Round of Bienemy for the house. Just put it on David Tepper's tab.

[raz]

7 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Bien has too problematic of a past with women to be hired in the MeToo era, especially with a politically progressive owner like Tepper

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/1/6/18169793/bengals-coach-search-chiefs-eric-bieniemy-vance-joseph-broncos

that is the stupidest attempt at a takedown i've ever read.  nothing in there is reason to not hire the enemy.  and his past with women?   you mean people who weren't him?    that was idiotic to post

[FakePlasticTrees]

Admittedly we are all operating with incomplete and very limited information. However, for me, the information we do have would lead me to a hard no for hiring Bieniemy for two primary reasons:

I believe he has no head coaching experience; and

He does not even call plays as an offensive coordinator in Kansas City. BTW, he has only held that position since 2018.

As it relates to respect: I suspect that in the NFL lasting respect is earned and maintained by belief, which is reinforced by progress and ultimately winning. I have no doubt that a certain amount of respect comes with having been a former player. However, I also firmly believe this respect is precarious at best. Mike Singletary comes to mind.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, raz said:

that is the stupidest attempt at a takedown i've ever read.  nothing in there is reason to not hire the enemy.  and his past with women?   you mean people who weren't him?    that was idiotic to post

Yeah, that was an atrocious article. That's just someone throwing poo at a wall and hoping it will stick. 

[Shocker]

I like Bienemy and would love to see him hired.  Gotta get a top DC if he is the guy.

McDaniels has a decent resume but sounds like a punk.  Cooled on him bigtime.

[raz]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that was an atrocious article. That's just someone throwing poo at a wall and hoping it will stick. 

i don't think bobo even read the article.   he just wants stef

[raz]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that was an atrocious article. That's just someone throwing poo at a wall and hoping it will stick. 

i'm glad there's no one out there trying to bring up the dumb stuff i did in college.  people would read it and think 'wow he took a lot of acid'

[kungfoodude]

Just now, raz said:

i'm glad there's no one out there trying to bring up the dumb stuff i did in college.  people would read it and think 'wow he took a lot of acid'

I really feel bad for any young person today growing up. There is no room to even be a young, dumb fug up like a lot of kids are. Everything is held against you forever either legally or in the court of public opinion. Over stupid, young people poo too. 

[1of10Charnatives]

2 minutes ago, raz said:

that is the stupidest attempt at a takedown i've ever read.  nothing in there is reason to not hire the enemy.  and his past with women?   you mean people who weren't him?    that was idiotic to post

I just read the linked article and while it's possible there could be issues beneath that, absolutely nothing about the article gave me serious reservations. I think it's extremely unfair to label a guy as having a bad past with women just because a college program that he was a part of had some players face rape allegations. Rape allegations are no joke, but was anyone actually convicted? Is there anything suggesting this was a systemic problem where such things were continually swept under the rug? Most importantly, is there anything to suggest Bienemy was in a position of authority where what to do about these things was his call? Not the HC, not the AD, but his call? If not then at worst he is guilty of going along to get along, which is something about 95% of h sapiens do.

But let's circle back to the other stuff. Dude got a bunch of minor traffic violations? Yeah that clearly screams horrible human being. Some perfectly reasonable sounding misunderstanding with the fire department where you don't want them to knock down your mother's wall unnecessarily because they misunderstood where the fire started? The more I look at this article the more it looks like a hit job attempting to find a bunch of tiny nonsense and fan it into the flames of something. I mean, seriously, you're going to expect a minority athlete at a bar to not react when hit with a racial slur? That's a ludicriously high bar to set in terms of personal conduct. No one asked Eric Bienemy to be Jackie Robinson.

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, raz said:

i'm glad there's no one out there trying to bring up the dumb stuff i did in college.  people would read it and think 'wow he took a lot of acid'

you took a lot of acid, didn't you?

[1of10Charnatives]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I really feel bad for any young person today growing up. There is no room to even be a young, dumb fug up like a lot of kids are. Everything is held against you forever either legally or in the court of public opinion. Over stupid, young people poo too. 

I agree, but to some degree they are all busily engaged by stupidly posting all their young dumb stuff to the internet for the entire world to see and look up for eternity. That seems smart. I'm sure it will end well for them.

[raz]

1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

you took a lot of acid, didn't you?

no, where'd you read that?  yes, yes i did.