Justin Herbert

[Shocker]

35 minutes ago, Puresteel55 said:

Are you fugging kidding me? I have been here for years. Been a Panthers fan since day 1. Played successfully in college, on an NFL practice squad for 2 years and coached for several years thereafter.

I have an opinion and I shared it. I do believe that Herbert is raw but has the talent, if developed, to succeed highly at the pro level. 

If you disagree that’s fine but you don’t have to be such a punk arshole. You can respond with a bit of civility.

You are far from alone on that assessment.  Some GM is definitely going to take a chance on him early in the draft.  Maybe he is a late bloomer and will explode.  Nobody knows.

Size, arm and athleticism are there.

[rayzor]

There really isn't a QB in this class i feel good about.

Pretty weak class.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Hurndog is gonna blow another 2nd/3rd round pick on a QB like Pickles and Grier. Its inevitable. My guess is Fromm.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, stbugs said:

His credentials sound like that football coach alias from earlier last year that was easily a sham. I don’t believe someone who coached and played college/NFL PS level would say Herbert was better than Luck as a prospect. I don’t care if you don’t like Luck or not, he was the top QB prospect coming out since Manning and Herbert isn’t even close to that.

His credentials aren’t real. 

Yeah, Luck checked all the boxes. Lawrence is the best QB prospect since Luck IMO in terms of checking all the boxes. Even Herbert's strongest supporters surely have to admit that there are serious questions about his game and how it translates to the NFL, they just think he has the tools and ability to answer those questions. Fair enough, but don't pretend like there aren't legit questions.

[DamnItJake!]

Another Josh Rosen!! All hype not NFL level talent 

[pdub0702]

8 minutes ago, DamnItJake! said:

Another Josh Rosen!! All hype not NFL level talent 

I think a lot of folks want to like Justin Herbert. Because:

Athletic 

Big Arm

Has the desired size (big bodied QB)

Full disclosure: I’ve only watch a couple of his games. Saying that, I haven’t seen anything to suggest he’s gonna light up the NFL. I feel like he’s a good Day 2 prospect. But as a Top 15? Don’t see it. Screams bust.

[Shocker]

58 minutes ago, DamnItJake! said:

Another Josh Rosen!! All hype not NFL level talent 

Both of those guys have talent but do they love the game?  Ive heard that maybe the reason Herbert is the same player he was last year is because he wants to please everyone but doesn't really love it.

[davos]

2 hours ago, rayzor said:

There really isn't a QB in this class i feel good about.

Pretty weak class.

Jordan Love is the guy I was really expecting a lot from and he just had a dud season.  People are still high on him and he's the guy I'll likely follow through the draft process.  His deficiencies are coacheable.

Herbert, Eason, Fromm, & Hurts all have legit concerns.  Hurts & Fromm however look capable at times. 

Tua, Mond and Newman may not even end up in the draft. They're possibly 2021.  I like Newman going to Oregon. 

And then there's Burrow.

The rest of the potential QBs are complete unknowns/oddballs

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, davos said:

Jordan Love is the guy I was really expecting a lot from and he just had a dud season.  People are still high on him and he's the guy I'll likely follow through the draft process.  His deficiencies are coacheable.

He's the one potentially intriguing QB prospect who I haven't watched a single thing on. Not even a YouTube highlight.

[SBiii]

2 hours ago, pdub0702 said:

I think a lot of folks want to like Justin Herbert. Because:

Athletic 

Big Arm

Has the desired size (big bodied QB)

So what's the problem?

Lack of intellect?  Immature? 

[Verge]

4 hours ago, Puresteel55 said:

Are you fugging kidding me? I have been here for years. Been a Panthers fan since day 1. Played successfully in college, on an NFL practice squad for 2 years and coached for several years thereafter.

I have an opinion and I shared it. I do believe that Herbert is raw but has the talent, if developed, to succeed highly at the pro level. 

If you disagree that’s fine but you don’t have to be such a punk arshole. You can respond with a bit of civility.

Just ignore him, RumHam is a negative troll who says everyone is bad. Welcome to the forum.

[Verge]

Herbert has the size, speed, intelligence, arm, and experience to be very successful in the NFL.

In the redzone in his college career: 
50 TDs, 4 INTs 

^That is kind of insane

[ImaginaryKev]

I mean I'll talk myself into it if he's the pick bc I'm a fan regardless but hard pass

[ImaginaryKev]

I just think it should be a concern that he has allll these tools yet still doesn't pass the eyeball test. We have to point to his stats at the end of the game to try paint a picture of him and that feels like justifying him as a good pick in spite of what you actually see on the field. I like Tua better.