The Athletic reports that Marty Hurney will stay on as GM, and is negotiating contracts for Bradberry and Boston

[bobowilson]

Hurney definitely gives out bad contracts, but if we're being real with ourselves, cap space is largely a myth (this is not the NBA).

We were never really in as much cap hell as people liked to pretend (no team really is), simply because the league allows you to indefinitely kick the can down the road.  It certainly helps if your owner is rich and doesn't care.

If you want to a see a good example of this, study the New Orleans Saints of the past decade.

 

[Jared Patterson]

Hurney draft Derrick Brown please

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

How come the Saints are negative in cap space every year, yet sign whoever they want whenever they want?

 A HOF QB with a rapidly(we thought) closing window. They are going to eat a good but when he retires. But you have to go for it while he’s there. 
 

  That and drafting more than one good player a year gives a team tremendous flexibility. 

[Smithers]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Ok. Now back to these contracts. Are we still pretending he signed no bad contracts! Because you seemed to skip that?  And Shaq just signed. No one can judge that either way. What about the rest? 

Since returning his contracts have been very reasonable.  Hell he landed McCoy for millions less than others offered him. I’ve already said that Paradis was bad, but most GMs in the league would have signed him to a similar contract based on game film.  
 

the entire team this year was poo.  Rivera’s cover 2 is antiquated and worthless.  NFL QBs complete over 70% of their passes against cover 2 zone, which Rivera ran 60% of the time.  It’s time we stop blaming all the players and start blaming the scheme.  Only Rivera can make pro bowlers look like practice squad players.  Our scheme has been outdated for 3-4 years now.

[Cpt slay a ho]

The overreactions from posters are about as bad as the Kyle Allen is the future topics force down our throats *pause* during Allen’s 5-1 stretch.

ive been saying since mid season , bradberry, McCoy and Boston are the only guys I’d prioritize resigning. Although I’ve cooled off on the bradberry resigning.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, bobowilson said:

Hurney definitely gives out bad contracts, but if we're being real with ourselves, cap space is largely a myth (this is not the NBA).

We were never really in as much cap hell as people liked to pretend (no team really is), simply because the league allows you to indefinitely kick the can down the road.  It certainly helps if your owner is rich and doesn't care.

If you want to a see a good example of this, study the New Orleans Saints of the past decade.

 

The cap is real when it comes to guaranteed money. A lot of contracts have big money non-guaranteed years in them to inflate the numbers to make the agent look better, but those guarantees in the form of signing bonuses are hitting your cap no matter what.

Rich people don't own NFL teams. Incredibly wealthy people own NFL teams.

[Jared Patterson]

I hope we resign Bradberry, McCoy and Addison... the rest idc

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Since returning his contracts have been very reasonable.  Hell he landed McCoy for millions less than others offered him. I’ve already said that Paradis was bad, but most GMs in the league would have signed him to a similar contract based on game film.  
 

the entire team this year was poo.  Rivera’s cover 2 is antiquated and worthless.  NFL QBs complete over 70% of their passes against cover 2 zone, which Rivera ran 60% of the time.  It’s time we stop blaming all the players and start blaming the scheme.  Only Rivera can make pro bowlers look like practice squad players.  Our scheme has been outdated for 3-4 years now.

You think Ron primarily runs a cover two scheme? LOL!

[bobowilson]

5 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

How come the Saints are negative in cap space every year, yet sign whoever they want whenever they want?

Because they are a well run organization who realizes the NFL cap is not to be taken seriously, but circumvented and exploited for it's loopholes.

The dumbest thing we ever did in Panthers history was hire Gettleman to become 'frugal' and penny pinch to get us under the cap (when we had Cam Newton in his prime, ready to win Super Bowls), when we should have kicked the can down the road indefinitely and loaded up.

The people who kept saying we had 'no room' to sign a left tackle were simply ignorant of how easy it is for creative front offices to circumvent the very soft NFL salary cap.

Here's a nice trick the Eagles use

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/how-eagles-are-using-fake-contract-years-create-cap-space

[beastson]

Keep cam. Draft oline 1st 2nd and 3rd

[OldNorthPowell]

Hope. I will miss thee. 2015 might be our last chance in my lifetime if this is how the team will be ran now. Hurney is a terrible GM and many facts back that up. Smh.

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Since returning his contracts have been very reasonable.  Hell he landed McCoy for millions less than others offered him. I’ve already said that Paradis was bad, but most GMs in the league would have signed him to a similar contract based on game film.  
 

the entire team this year was poo.  Rivera’s cover 2 is antiquated and worthless.  NFL QBs complete over 70% of their passes against cover 2 zone, which Rivera ran 60% of the time.  It’s time we stop blaming all the players and start blaming the scheme.  Only Rivera can make pro bowlers look like practice squad players.  Our scheme has been outdated for 3-4 years now.

   It doesn’t matter if you or I or any GM liked Paradis. I did too. This is an evaluation. And Marty had a lot more informations than anyone but DEN. He signed him. Paradis is awful. Some people defended Matt Kalil signing. It doesn’t change that dark moment one bit. 
 

    What about Gano! Reid? Torrey Smith? Poe? Williams? Olsen? 

[MHS831]

This reminds me of the spending spree of 2011/12--Hurney is going to Hurney.  Bradberry will get $13m per (backloaded) and he will pay Boston somewhere in the $6-7m range--(backloaded).  In 2011, we re-signed veterans from a 2-14 team.

I still say that we need an outside CB who can ball. 

 

[hepcat]

Well the Panthers are in for a few seasons of losing at the very least