Drafting 6-8: A Historic Look at Prospects & What 2020 Holds

[ncfan]

6 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

These statements are thrown around way to often now.. 

Yes and no.

 

Some such as the ESPN hype it up like that every year.    But if you dig enough youll see otherwise.

Such as Dillard last year who everyone hyped up and I mentioned we shouldn't touch while everyone got excited and really argued with me.  

These 3 are guys to draft this year though if they are around

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Hopefully as a new regime you 1st take stock in assets you already have before replacing them.. Atleast need to access what you already have investment in..

They're not going to be "replaced". They're on cheap rookie contracts. They're going to get a shot. 

To hear some Panthers fans talk, you'd think Greg Little looked like Jonathan Ogden before he got hurt. He was decent. Not great, not terrible, decent. When he came back he looked awful. Daley had a similar tale. Looked decent early but the more he played the worse he looked.

[davos]

32 minutes ago, Varking said:

I don’t think Jalen Hurts is catapulting up and draft boards after today. He’s a solid 4th rounder. 

Agreed and I'll own that! haha

[Rocky Davis]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They're not going to be "replaced". They're on cheap rookie contracts. They're going to get a shot. 

To hear some Panthers fans talk, you'd think Greg Little looked like Jonathan Ogden before he got hurt. He was decent. Not great, not terrible, decent. When he came back he looked awful. Daley had a similar tale. Looked decent early but the more he played the worse he looked.

I think both Little and Daley with good, competent coaching can be solid parts of an OL.  We just have to make the right coaching choices and put them where they can succeed...not where we think they can play ala Williams and LT. F Rivera for that!

[WOW!!]

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

They're not going to be "replaced". They're on cheap rookie contracts. They're going to get a shot. 

To hear some Panthers fans talk, you'd think Greg Little looked like Jonathan Ogden before he got hurt. He was decent. Not great, not terrible, decent. When he came back he looked awful. Daley had a similar tale. Looked decent early but the more he played the worse he looked.

They need reps and game time.. Adding another cuts into that... We don't know what we have and 1 season isn't enough time to judge that.. At some point it's overkill and you're not letting the process play out..

Now with most of the Dline getting old and being FA .. I can see going after that position.. Honestly it's way to early to pin point anything without knowing Cam's, Bradberry and McCoy's situation...

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

They need reps and game time.. Adding another cuts into that... We don't know what we have and 1 season isn't enough time to judge that.. At some point it's overkill and you're not letting the process play out..

Now with most of the Dline getting old and being FA .. I can see going after that position.. Honestly it's way to early to pin point anything without knowing Cam's, Bradberry and McCoy's situation...

I can absolutely see us going DL in the 1st. But I think you're straight crazy if you cross OL off the list because of Little and Daley. Moton is going into the final year of his contract while Turner and Paradis are about to the point of being liabilities. Not to mention being subpar at LG. Honestly, we just looked plain bad at OL across the board this year. The option of kicking Little and/or Daley inside to OG also exists. Both trenches need infusions of talent instead of relying on some of the worst units in the NFL to hopefully simply get better.

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I can absolutely see us going DL in the 1st. But I think you're straight crazy if you cross OL off the list because of Little and Daley. Moton is going into the final year of his contract while Turner and Paradis are about to the point of being liabilities. Not to mention being subpar at LG. Honestly, we just looked plain bad at OL across the board this year. The option of kicking Little and/or Daley inside to OG also exists. Both trenches need infusions of talent instead of relying on some of the worst units in the NFL to hopefully simply get better.

I'm not crossing it off the list.. I'd rather add a veteran OT and OG in FA.. The OT for insurance incase Little and Daley bust out.. And a Vet OG to start beside them... I would also like to draft a OG/C to prepare for Turner or Pardis departure...

[Varking]

50 minutes ago, davos said:

Agreed and I'll own that! haha

All good. Truth be told I still think a team is taking him in the late 2nd. 

[AU-panther]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Tua is the biggest wildcard in this draft with the injury issues. Not much of anything that happens with his draft status will surprise me. So much hinges on his medicals and even if there's a virtual consensus that he's a huge injury risk, all it takes is for one team to disagree.

Miami has almost backed themselves in a corner.  By most accounts they went out of their way to tank this year, namely for Tua.  If they stay at 4 and someone takes Tua ahead of them they almost wasted a season.  Even if nobody plans on taking Tua that high, whatever team is at 2 and 3 will act like someone is.  Miami has 3 1st round picks this year so teams are going to try and take advantage of that.  

With that being said pick 2 is going to be really expensive.  Chase Young is one of the better non QB prospects to come out in the past few years.  If I was a GM I would be willing to go from 3 to 5 a lot quicker then 2 to 5.

 

[davos]

#7 is going to make this spicy.  I advise that everyone should anticipate many mocks with either Tua or Herbert.  It's going to happen. 

Big Board:

1. Joe Burrow QB LSU (Gone to Cinci)

2. Chase Young DE Ohio State (Top talent in draft, Gone)

3. Andrew Thomas LT Georgia (Gone)

4. Derrick Brown DT Auburn

5. Tua Tagovailoa QB Alabama

6. Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama

7. Jeffrey Okudah CB Ohio State 

8. Justin Herbert QB Oregon

9. AJ Epenesa DE Iowa

10. Tristan Wirfs LT Iowa

11. Jedrick Wills LT Alabama

12. CeeDee Lamb WR Oklahoma

[LegioX]

On 12/28/2019 at 12:54 PM, 45catfan said:

This also shows offensive linemen are the safest route, albeit not the most sexy.  We need linemen, screw the flashy, diva skill positions.

I like splashy picks that bring people to the stadium but I seriously think we need an very good OL pick. I’m tired of seeing our line melt 

[manu4t]

On 12/28/2019 at 2:06 PM, ncfan said:

Give me Wirfs of Jedrick Wills

 

Watching Wirfs last night, id do backflips if we landed him

He was an absolute roadgrader last night. Short of any physical or character issues I would love to have him at #7