Paradis thus far this season

[1of10Charnatives]

3 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

Trading up for Greg Little sucked and I wasn’t crazy about it on draft day. Has Marty ever won a draft-day trade when we traded up? Trading down has worked (2007), but when has trading up worked?

Trading up is most often the bad move in draft day trades. The draft is some part crap shoot, so the best overall approach is to give yourself as many lottery tickets as possible. Trading up almost always involves giving up more picks than you get back.

[saX man]

Center is a critical hole we need to plug. I prefer a long term plug. Something really durable and sturdy. One that will not allow leakage in the slightest.

[cardiackat88.]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I can't say that I'm surprised. It's nearly impossible to overstate how terrible Paradis has been. Every bit as bad as Amini and Bell at their worst.

What about Fua?

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

Paradis's former GM didn't even offer and voiced concerns about Paradis post injury.

Yeah, and he was completely right. I don't think a single Panthers fan ever thought Paradis would be this level of disaster.

[frash.exe]

oh gee, if only someone would’ve warned the board that just throwing a bunch of money at a guy coming off an injury and anointing him the starter-to-be after your stalwart center leaves the organization wasn’t a foolhardy plan, maybe that would’ve saved you guys a bunch of disappointment

oh wait i can remember saying exactly that  during the summer. what a slam dunk of an FA move.

[Peon Awesome]

Paradis has been a huge disappointment but signing the top rated free agent center to a contract that doesn't even pay him top 10 center money with an easy out after 2 years didn't look like a terrible decision at the time. But it's a damn shame Paradis came back from his injury as a shell of himself. I think at minimum we should draft a center with a mid round pick and open competition in training camp with a low threshold to cut ties even though it won't save us much.

[Peon Awesome]

The other aspect of this tweet that deserves attention is the fact that Nate Solder has been awful himself. This is the same Nate Solder who was the consensus prize free agent left tackle in 2018 and got a contract paying him over 15 million per year. Let that be a word of caution for the huge swath of huddlers that are so desperate for us to go out and spend a fortune on a free agent LT this offseason. We could be having this same thread about that person next year.

[raleigh-panther]

2 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

The other aspect of this tweet that deserves attention is the fact that Nate Solder has been awful himself. This is the same Nate Solder who was the consensus prize free agent left tackle in 2018 and got a contract paying him over 15 million per year. Let that be a word of caution for the huge swath of huddlers that are so desperate for us to go out and spend a fortune on a free agent LT this offseason. We could be having this same thread about that person next year.

Yes

many cautionary tales of free agents and the Panthers don’t learn it...ever.  
 

go get young players....smaller contracts.  Less risk   Do what the Pats do (and the Seahawks) and move them at prime with draft picks 

[pantherj]

I tend to like centers in the 6'5" 320 range, like Cowboys center Travis Frederick. There are some whoppers in this upcoming draft.

[GoPanthers123]

I remember at the start of last season our OL was actually pretty decent, not sure how 1 year can wreck things this bad. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Why remind us? Haven't we suffered enough? 

[ncstatekwi]

No bueno!!!

[kungfoodude]

8 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

The other aspect of this tweet that deserves attention is the fact that Nate Solder has been awful himself. This is the same Nate Solder who was the consensus prize free agent left tackle in 2018 and got a contract paying him over 15 million per year. Let that be a word of caution for the huge swath of huddlers that are so desperate for us to go out and spend a fortune on a free agent LT this offseason. We could be having this same thread about that person next year.

There were plenty that were preaching caution on Nate Solder. I can remember sports bobble heads and other media questioning the size of that contract. 

The people questioning the Paradis move were a much smaller minority, IIRC. 

In the end, I guess it doesn't really matter. He is terrible and we need to get a replacement in the offseason.

[Mr. Scot]

I remember one of the topics this past offseason was that it felt like we were going into this year depending on a lot of guys who were either older or coming off of injury and that might bite us on the ass.

I'd say our ass now has tooth marks on it.