Miller’s top 50 big board & positional analysis

[BrizzMachete]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Sure.

Yeah, all this is bad. It's like you don't watch the team. 

Yeah cause Shaq sure is a game changer . It’s like you don’t watch the team . We almost last in run defense my guy lol He never made any all pro or pro bowl. Which means he replaceable . He good not great which is my point . You don’t overpay players who don’t score you points that’s my logic. We can agree but that’s me . Nobody on this defense would have got paid handsomely if it was up to me . But it’s not . And my eye for talent is superb . Remember this . And as i said for the tarheels they have a lot of late round gems . Meaning they will be productive not stars. 
oh yeah please name all those left handed qbs that’s stars ? I’ll wait 

[BrizzMachete]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. There's some NFL talent on that roster but the majority of them won't be in this draft.

A lot of them are juniors i hope they stay in school cause they’ll boost their stock a lot . Esp Chazz

[BrizzMachete]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only late round guy I would want off the Heels' roster is Jason Strowbridge. I think Surratt will be back for another season and he won't be a late rounder next year. I think Myles Dorn is basically a worse version of Tre Boston. Charlie Heck was a solid college LT but I don't think he's an NFL player.

Strowbridge though, yeah I'd take that guy as a late rounder. He fits that 3-4 DE mold that we lack or he could eat a few big meals and play 4-3 three technique DT.

Myles Dorn will be a stud . Just my opinion tho . 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, BrizzMachete said:

Yeah cause Shaq sure is a game changer . It’s like you don’t watch the team . We almost last in run defense my guy lol He never made any all pro or pro bowl. Which means he replaceable . He good not great which is my point . You don’t overpay players who don’t score you points that’s my logic. We can agree but that’s me . Nobody on this defense would have got paid handsomely if it was up to me . But it’s not . And my eye for talent is superb . Remember this . And as i said for the tarheels they have a lot of late round gems . Meaning they will be productive not stars. 
oh yeah please name all those left handed qbs that’s stars ? I’ll wait 

Yeah we should definitely be letting players go on the basis of a guy we want in the draft that may or may not be available. Now you blame this on the LB's and not the DL? Yeah, you don't watch the team. 

You have an eye for talent? Do you have one for left handed QB talent?

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

Myles Dorn will be a stud . Just my opinion tho . 

Way too many plays where his effort looks off. Just too inconsistent. Poor man's Tre Boston IMO.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Way too many plays where his effort looks off. Just too inconsistent. Poor man's Tre Boston IMO.

College football homers are the worst. Simple refusal to see the evident. 

[BrizzMachete]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah we should definitely be letting players go on the basis of a guy we want in the draft that may or may not be available. Now you blame this on the LB's and not the DL? Yeah, you don't watch the team. 

You have an eye for talent? Do you have one for left handed QB talent?

My guy you listed one guy out of the 100 years of the nfl you literally making my case for me lol . Now name me ten more better yet name me 5 and I’ll give you one for laughs . Vick now name four more i made it easy on you . Lol and i didn’t say the dline was great did i ! ? We talking about Shaq. He good not great aka replaceable . Aka don’t pay no damn linebacker that much who never made a pro bowl . And the only reason i listed Simmons is cause I’m sure he will be on the board when we pick 

[BrizzMachete]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Way too many plays where his effort looks off. Just too inconsistent. Poor man's Tre Boston IMO.

We will see . He long . He can hit . He already sound better than Tre Boston to me , potential wise of course 

[Peon Awesome]

Am I the only one appreciating the irony that people who are desperately hoping we draft Tua don't believe Cam can regain his effectiveness post injury? Otherwise why use a top 10 pick when you have an mvp-caliber qb on a marginal contract?

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

College football homers are the worst. Simple refusal to see the evident. 

Yeah, I'm a huge UNC fan but I want the best prospects for the Panthers regardless of where they went to school.

Now, if we're still in the market for a QB in 2022 I'm probably gonna be slamming the poo out of the table for Sam Howell.

[BrizzMachete]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

College football homers are the worst. Simple refusal to see the evident. 

It’s evident cause you and him say so ? And I’m not a homer . Me being a homer is me saying he a star and should be a first round pick . Be a man talk to me . Not to him . 

[LinvilleGorge]

What's the difference between "stud" and "star"? Because you said Myles Dorn was going to be a stud.

[Riverboat Ron]

One of our top 2 round picks has to be on either the offensive or defensive line, ideally both. We are losing on both sides of the trenches and until we fix that everything else is null.

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, BrizzMachete said:

My guy you listed one guy out of the 100 years of the nfl you literally making my case for me lol . Now name me ten more better yet name me 5 and I’ll give you one for laughs . Vick now name four more i made it easy on you . Lol and i didn’t say the dline was great did i ! ? We talking about Shaq. He good not great aka replaceable . Aka don’t pay no damn linebacker that much who never made a pro bowl . And the only reason i listed Simmons is cause I’m sure he will be on the board when we pick 

Sure can, Ken Stabler, Boomer Esiason, Mark Brunell and Michael Vick. How about this for a stat, 10% of people are left handed. Think maybe that plays a role in the lack of left handed examples? But, I'm not the one making claims that left handed QB's aren't successful(read your original post). Enjoy your facts as you shift the argument to cover your obvious blunder. 

You didn't make any assertion about the DL, nor did I say you did. What you did say was that we were dead last in run defense in the middle of talking about Shaq Thompson. You think Shaq was the reason we are dead last? Then you don't watch the team.

And as for Shaq's contract, I wouldn't have signed him to that big of a contract either. He's a good player not a player of the caliber that his salary indicates. As for Simmons, I cannot fathom using that pick on a LB with the other obvious roster needs that we currently have and with the potential of more coming in the offseason. If Shaq had moved on, we could pick up a LB in the 2nd-4th round to compete and/or sign a free agent rental. We have much, much, much, much bigger fish to fry even if we had let Shaq go.