PFF video on Gries first start. Surprise!

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

It’s interesting that the guy who inserted himself into an argument he wasn’t part of then declares that thing not worth arguing about.  Feel free to not argue about it any time you want.

I'm sorry I made your McLaughlin group like debate voided by pointing out we lost to the 2nd worst team (by record) in the league.   So calling us better than 7 other teams is hearsay right now..

My bad please go on with this fruitless diatribe..

[WOW!!]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well they also lost to the Redskins and that was with their #2 QB.

I still don't think that's a for sure win after watching the last 7 weeks..

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I still don't think that's a for sure win after watching the last 7 weeks..

Nah, I'd never say it was for sure. Furthermore, we wouldn't beat them in CURRENT form but that is largely because we just aren't playing people and sitting them(see Shaq Thompson). You won't win very often when you aren't REALLY trying that hard to win. 

[1of10Charnatives]

13 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I'm sorry I made your McLaughlin group like debate voided by pointing out we lost to the 2nd worst team (by record) in the league.   So calling us better than 7 other teams is hearsay right now..

My bad please go on with this fruitless diatribe..

Right now you’re the one going on about something you claimed was not worth debating. The one who’s posts contradict each other isn’t me. Again, feel free to stop debating the thing you said wasn’t worth it at any time.

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Right now you’re the one going on about something you claimed was not worth debating. The one who’s posts contradict each other isn’t me. Again, feel free to stop debating the thing you said wasn’t worth it at any time.

Okay buddy..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ps..

We lost to the 2nd worst team by record in the league...

[1of10Charnatives]

1 hour ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Not my job.  I don't care if you agree.  I already told you I wasn't going to do your research for you.  I gave you a handful of compelling facts under the very relevant context that we started the season near the top of offensive and defensive rankings, and now are in the bottom third.  While the Dolphins and Bengals rankings sit lower than ours in said categories, they have actually made steady improvement in their on field performance while we are getting blown out left and right.  Maybe the total season stats looks better for us, but that does not mean we are currently a better team than either.  It paints a very ugly picture, whether you want to open your eyes and look at it or not.

 I made one simple point. You didn’t provide any evidence to support the assertion we’re the worst. It isn’t on me to do the research because I didn't make the claim, you did. You have yet to provide anything which makes a compelling case we are worse than the Bengals or Dolphins, save a single example of losing to a really bad team. You don’t think any other bad teams have also lost to bad teams?

We look like dog poo. A handful of other teams also look like dog poo, yet have even worse records. They have sucked all season, we looked decent for a while. The whole season counts, not just the part Chicken Little wants to point to when saying the sky is falling.

Regardless, I said the one bit I wanted to say. Enjoy the rest of your holidays despite our on field awfulness. Thankfully neither of us is responsible for it.

[1of10Charnatives]

38 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I'm sorry I made your McLaughlin group like debate 

Wrong!

You all had Special K with banana.

[DeAngelo Beason]

On 12/27/2019 at 3:22 PM, 1of10Charnatives said:

 I made one simple point. You didn’t provide any evidence to support the assertion we’re the worst. It isn’t on me to do the research because I didn't make the claim, you did. You have yet to provide anything which makes a compelling case we are worse than the Bengals or Dolphins, save a single example of losing to a really bad team. You don’t think any other bad teams have also lost to bad teams?

We look like dog poo. A handful of other teams also look like dog poo, yet have even worse records. They have sucked all season, we looked decent for a while. The whole season counts, not just the part Chicken Little wants to point to when saying the sky is falling.

Regardless, I said the one bit I wanted to say. Enjoy the rest of your holidays despite our on field awfulness. Thankfully neither of us is responsible for it.

Tell me again about the Dolphins?  

I feel pretty confident sitting here telling you that you're wrong, and I'll just leave it at that.

[DeAngelo Beason]

On 12/27/2019 at 1:48 PM, kungfoodude said:

It's pretty unreal the lack of firm grasp of what you actually wrote is. 

The point that should absolutely be remembered here is that you would actually wish for your own team to lose rather than lose an argument on teh interwebz. I think we see how much of a "fan" you really are. 

I'm exposed.  Oh no.

[heel31ok]

On 12/25/2019 at 11:29 PM, ImaginaryKev said:

I don't know why anyone would be particularly invested in either Grier or Allen, they both look like backups

That's what they are...

[1of10Charnatives]

1 minute ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Tell me again about the Dolphins?  

I feel pretty confident sitting here telling you that you're wrong, and I'll just leave it at that.

Then you missed the entire point. Your argument rested on your subjective opinion, not objective facts. When this season is over, no one will remember how any team played at this or that point in the season, all that will ever be remembered is the statistical information. Our records are identical and the Dolphins rank worse in plenty of statistical categories, so sit there and say I'm wrong all you want, you haven't provided anything that anyone cares about to back it up.

[heel31ok]

On 12/27/2019 at 8:45 AM, DeAngelo Beason said:

I'm not here to look up stats and measurements for you.  If you wish to rebut, feel free.  Here are a few talking points that cannot be debated that support my case, however. 

 

We have the second worst ranked run defense, and 20th ranked pass defense (#23 ranked overall)

We were manhandled by the Redskins, who are considered to be one of the very worst teams in the league.

We were massacred twice by the Falcons, who are considered to be one of the very worst teams in the league.

We were decimated by the Colts, who are an average (at BEST) team.

We are in the bottom half of the league in every offensive category except rushing, where we only rank 14.

 

All of these statistics become much more damning when you factor in where these rankings were in week 8 vs where they are now.  We were not the worst team in the league in week 8.  Right now, we are the worst team in the league.  Period.  Objective, subjective, I don't really give a fug.  It's obvious to anyone with two eyes and a pea for a brain bouncing around in their skull.

Hate the Falcons but they were really good down the stretch... and the Colts are not so bad to confirm your point ...so

[DeAngelo Beason]

8 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Hate the Falcons but they were really good down the stretch... and the Colts are not so bad to confirm your point ...so

You make my point for me.  The Falcons were a worse team than the Panthers early this year.  As were the Dolphins, Lions, Bucs, etc, etc...

That simply ended up being not the case during the last 8 weeks of the season.  We were significantly worse than all of those teams.

[DeAngelo Beason]

12 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Then you missed the entire point. Your argument rested on your subjective opinion, not objective facts. When this season is over, no one will remember how any team played at this or that point in the season, all that will ever be remembered is the statistical information. Our records are identical and the Dolphins rank worse in plenty of statistical categories, so sit there and say I'm wrong all you want, you haven't provided anything that anyone cares about to back it up.

Ok, well the Dolphins finished with an equal record to our own against stronger competition with far more impressive wins, so there's an objective fact for you.  You're the one who's been harping on them, not me.