PFF video on Gries first start. Surprise!

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

29 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Currently the standings say there are at least 7 worse teams by record. Are we going by your personal subjective feelings or the objective measures of record/point differential that most people use?

Standings are misleading.  We aren't playing nearly as well as we did earlier in the season when we beat Houston.  For the season?  Sure.  We have a better record than 7 teams.  But if we played those 7 teams today, how many do I expect we'd beat?  None that have a run game.

[DeAngelo Beason]

22 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Standings are misleading.  We aren't playing nearly as well as we did earlier in the season when we beat Houston.  For the season?  Sure.  We have a better record than 7 teams.  But if we played those 7 teams today, how many do I expect we'd beat?  None that have a run game.

Precisely.

[DeAngelo Beason]

56 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Currently the standings say there are at least 7 worse teams by record. Are we going by your personal subjective feelings or the objective measures of record/point differential that most people use?

Having a worse record doesn't mean a team is worse.

Speaking objectively, early in the season we had one of the best defenses in the NFL.  We now have the worst.  That is a very tangible measurement.  

[mc52beast]

I think Olsen said it best;

”He was put in an impossible situation “

[Brooklyn 3.0]

The real story here is that one guy's hair in the video. Holy crap.

[mav1234]

Grier's passing chat, courtesy NextGenStats:

[BurnHurnBurn]

It’s exactly what I I thought we would see.  A Jag we had no business drafting looking like ass behind a line made of ass, throwing to a WR corps reduced to ass.

Hurney’s mf’n specialty.

[1of10Charnatives]

12 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Standings are misleading.  We aren't playing nearly as well as we did earlier in the season when we beat Houston.  For the season?  Sure.  We have a better record than 7 teams.  But if we played those 7 teams today, how many do I expect we'd beat?  None that have a run game.

Still your subjective expectation and not an objective measure. Yes I understand teams do not play at the same level every week all season, I don’t know anyone who thinks this is the way it works, but it was asserted that we are the worst team in the league right now and literally nothing was offered besides the poster’s subjective opinion to support the assertion.

[1of10Charnatives]

12 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Having a worse record doesn't mean a team is worse.

Speaking objectively, early in the season we had one of the best defenses in the NFL.  We now have the worst.  That is a very tangible measurement.  

We now have the worst in exactly what objective way?

[GoPanthers123]

11 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Grier's passing chat, courtesy NextGenStats:

This is very telling.  Just point blank completions. 

[Harbingers]

1 hour ago, GoPanthers123 said:

This is very telling.  Just point blank completions. 

CMC checkdowns. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, GoPanthers123 said:

This is very telling.  Just point blank completions. 

3/15 with 3 INT's beyond 10 yards. OUCH

[TheMaulClaw]

I tried to tell everyone that it would be doing Grier a disservice by starting him in this lame duck year with an awful Oline.  I got poo'd because of mob rule.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, TheMaulClaw said:

I tried to tell everyone that it would be doing Grier a disservice by starting him in this lame duck year with an awful Oline.  I got poo'd because of mob rule.

Similar to Kyle, the OL wasn't the whole issue. Will was missing on passes he should have made, period.