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Could burns not play 4-3 olb?

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On 12/24/2019 at 2:58 PM, RumHam said:

We obviously need to switch back and with this being hurneys worst ever draft, burns does have talent. Whats stopping him from being able to cover?

The biggest problem with this Is the low snap counts he would get at lolb. If a team comes out with alot of wrs he wont see the field 

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Burns is a pass rusher. Really can't see him handling the duties of a 4-3 OLB.

He's one of those guys that might get you a surprise play or two dropping back in coverage for a zone blitz scheme (like we used to run) but as a true OLB? Just don't think so.

Having him gain weight and moving him to DE seems like the better option, though that's not guaranteed to work either.

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13 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Burns is a pass rusher. Really can't see him handling the duties of a 4-3 OLB.

He's one of those guys that might get you a surprise play or two dropping back in coverage for a zone blitz scheme (like we used to run) but as a true OLB? Just don't think so.

Having him gain weight and moving him to DE seems like the better option, though that's not guaranteed to work either.

Exactly why I think we continue to transfer to the 34 because his potential is a game changer and I think we can complete the transfer this year, One year was to little.

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5 hours ago, Matt62881 said:

Exactly why I think we continue to transfer to the 34 because his potential is a game changer and I think we can complete the transfer this year, One year was to little.

I've seen Burns injured a little too much to be enthusiastic about the idea of building around him..

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11 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Were not switching back to the 43. That's what Tepper wants. Both coaches linked to us are 34 coaches.

Do you know something other than this as your reason for making such a certain proclamation?  2 coaches both associated with 3-4---coincidence is as likely as any intent.

I think we have to worry about an owner making schematic decisions.  To assume the decision has been made and that your evidence (as presented in this post) is definitive is a huge reach.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've seen Burns injured a little too much to be enthusiastic about the idea of building around him..

Yea but the first was self inflicted, correct? The second I dont even know what it was, just see where he was getting a low snap counts. The beginning of the year he was balling for a rookie in a position usually only top 5 guys play at that level in there first year imo. I just dont think we are a huge amount of pieces away from the 34 working so I dont see it as building around him.

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5 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Do you know something other than this as your reason for making such a certain proclamation?  2 coaches both associated with 3-4---coincidence is as likely as any intent.

I think we have to worry about an owner making schematic decisions.  To assume the decision has been made and that your evidence (as presented in this post) is definitive is a huge reach.

It's not defininitive evidence. I just think it's more then coincidence.  We have an owner thats been heavily invested in the Steelers who's ran a 34 forever.  A year after he takes over we switch to the 34.  The HC candidates that have been pushed come from teams that run a 34.  The primary associate GM candidates have been scouting talent for 34 teams.  Our owner also has a lot of ties with the Patriots a 34 team.  While not definitive by any stretch.  It's fairly reasonable to presume that Tepper prefers a 34, and if he brings in a coach from a 34 team we would probably keep a 34.  I think switching back to a 43 is highly unlikely given that gluttony of circumstantial evidence.  Sorry if it seems unreasonable to you.

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I could be wrong but i dont see Burns putting on the strength it takes to hold the point in a 4-3.  obvious passing downs yes but he would need another 20lbs of muscle in the offseason to play every snap, in which case he would be a game wrecker.  Easier said than done

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