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Free Agent Left Tackles

kungfoodude

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Shocker Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think the top three options will go off the board quickly(Costanzo, Peters and Whitworth). I suspect only Peters will be making a change of address in that group. I also suspect Beachum might get a fat paycheck because the rest of the LT market is a lot more gamble heavy. 

How in the world is Whitworth a target.  He is older than the Mummy and has been suspect late in the year.   Last guy we should want.

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Just now, Shocker said:

How in the world is Whitworth a target.  He is older than the Mummy and has been suspect late in the year.   Last guy we should want.

Well considering he has allowed just one sack and is currently tied for third at 94% in Pass Block Win Rates for OT's, say he is certainly still capable. He's dropped off but even his dropped off self would be the best LT this franchise has had since Jordan Gross. The biggest concern would be the penalties, he is sitting at a career high in holding penalties at 7 and overall penalties at 12. 

Adding a guy like Whitworth is just a one year move, basically. Allow Little and Daley to develop either on the bench or more likely at RT or OG. 

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2 hours ago, Waldo said:

100%. And keep jumping on it until you have people that you can't replace, which is how it should be done across the board but you know, Panthers. 

  Use our first two pick for a LT and a Center.  Moved Little to LG, Morton to RG, and Daley to RT. You would have the makings of a young line, but do we want Bradford back.  We know he is not a shutdown CB, but he is good enough to pay the 2 spot and we can trade Jackson. and pick up a solid CB this year with the #1.  

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1 minute ago, cmichd said:

  Use our first two pick for a LT and a Center.  Moved Little to LG, Morton to RG, and Daley to RT. You would have the makings of a young line, but do we want Bradford back.  We know he is not a shutdown CB, but he is good enough to pay the 2 spot and we can trade Jackson. and pick up a solid CB this year with the #1.  

I think Sam Bradford would make a truly awful CB.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Sam Bradford would make a truly awful CB.

meant Bardberry...see how unnoticeable he is I get him confused LOL...Do we want him back or let him go and get a extra pick next year for losing him if he goes to another team.

 

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5 minutes ago, ncfan said:

This draft is a strong OT crop.

Atleast 3 OTs as good or better than the top OT in last years draft.

Have a opportunity to grab one of those then grab a DT round 2 as that group has depth.

Do you think we are keeping Bradberry?  

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I think we should certainly try to keep Bradberry. I don't think he's great, but he does match up very favorably against the elite #1 WRs for our division rivals. He's probably more valuable to us than most other teams simply because of that. He struggles against the smaller, twitchier guys but the opposing #1s in our division are all of the bigger variety.

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Hey, armchair gms, what is your plan for improving our defense? Because I can tell you that we could have had the best offensive line in the league and we would have still been a sub-.500 team. Did you notice that Little and Daley looked pretty decent when our line was healthy compared to when Daryl Williams stepped in at LG and they had to contend with DW and Paradis fending off that half of the pass rush? Cause I bet these free agents everyone wants, all of whom are either going to command 12-15+ million per year or are questionably even an upgrade over what a healthy Little or Daley would be next year at triple the price, would look pretty terrible next to those 2 as well. 

Our defense is the weakest link and is losing half of its starters to free agency (Addison, Irving, McCoy, Boston, Cockrell and Bradberry) and potentially at least one or more as a cap casualty (Poe). I know we like to pretend we have unlimited draft picks and money for free agency to shoreup every weakness but we don't sadly. We drafted 2 linemen in 2019 that we have under contract for 3 more years and at least flashed decent potential but were stymied by injuries and terrible line play aside them. I would much prefer we invest heavily in our defense (e.g defensive tackle R1, resign Bradberry, sign another d lineman, sign a couple pieces in the secondary) and then get a couple interior offensive linemen in the 2-5 round range. But sure, let's sign a 37 year old LT for 3 years, $45 million while we let either a rusty Cam, Kyle Allen or a rookie qb try to put up 45 points per game to keep up with our porous defense. That seems like a much more sound recipe for success than hoping either Little or Daley will put up competent LT play with a full offseason to recuperate, upgrades at LG and C through the draft, and another training camp to master the position. 

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4 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Hey, armchair gms, what is your plan for improving our defense? Because I can tell you that we could have had the best offensive line in the league and we would have still been a sub-.500 team. Did you notice that Little and Daley looked pretty decent when our line was healthy compared to when Daryl Williams stepped in at LG and they had to contend with DW and Paradis fending off that half of the pass rush? Cause I bet these free agents everyone wants, all of whom are either going to command 12-15+ million per year or are questionably even an upgrade over what a healthy Little or Daley would be next year at triple the price, would look pretty terrible next to those 2 as well. 

Our defense is the weakest link and is losing half of its starters to free agency (Addison, Irving, McCoy, Boston, Cockrell and Bradberry) and potentially at least one or more as a cap casualty (Poe). I know we like to pretend we have unlimited draft picks and money for free agency to shoreup every weakness but we don't sadly. We drafted 2 linemen in 2019 that we have under contract for 3 more years and at least flashed decent potential but were stymied by injuries and terrible line play aside them. I would much prefer we invest heavily in our defense (e.g defensive tackle R1, resign Bradberry, sign another d lineman, sign a couple pieces in the secondary) and then get a couple interior offensive linemen in the 2-5 round range. But sure, let's sign a 37 year old LT for 3 years, $45 million while we let either a rusty Cam, Kyle Allen or a rookie qb try to put up 45 points per game to keep up with our porous defense. That seems like a much more sound recipe for success than hoping either Little or Daley will put up competent LT play with a full offseason to recuperate, upgrades at LG and C through the draft, and another training camp to master the position. 

Yeah daley looked like a hall of famer on sunday didn't he? Theyre both awful. However if you get a good line and control the clock, the defense stays off the field.

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