Draft Position

[Real1zOnly]

Those Kyle Allen wins early really hurt us. We should honestly have a top 3 pick the way we played when Kyle came back down to earth.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

What has Tua done in college .. one half of good football in a Championship game?

[CatTower]

Just now, Real1zOnly said:

Those Kyle Allen wins early really hurt us. We should honestly have a top 3 pick the way we played when Kyle came back down to earth.

Yeah, but we also got fortunate in not winning the Rams and Bucs games Week 1 and Week 2.  All in all, I think we did pretty good to be drafting as high as we are.

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

What has Tua done in college .. one half of good football in a Championship game?

There won't be a better QB available to us than Tua in the foreseeable future

CMC will make sure we win too many games to get Lawrence/Fields in 2021 (will be the top 2 picks), and finding a franchise QB in free agency or the trade market is virtually impossible.

He's a bit of a gamble with his health, but if that checks out, he's one of the best QB prospects over the past decade.

Moving up from 7 to 4 is a small price to pay.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Just now, bobowilson said:

There won't be a better QB available to us than Tua in the foreseeable future

CMC will make sure we win too many games to get Lawrence/Fields in 2021 (will be the top 2 picks), and finding a franchise QB in free agency or the trade market is virtually impossible.

He's a bit of a gamble with his health, but if that checks out, he's one of the best QB prospects over the past decade.

Moving up from 7 to 4 is a small price to pay.

Cam. He's not really injury prone now. He just faked injury so Panthers could be bad enough to hire an offensive Head Coach like McCarthy.

[CatTower]

No reason to take the risk on Tua.  Instead, take the risk on Cam.  If Cam flames out, then we have another terrible year and get a shot at Lawrence. 

 

Draft OT 1st round because that's most important in protecting franchise QB.  What good is franchise QB if you send him out to be eaten by wolves?

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, CatTower said:

No reason to take the risk on Tua.  Instead, take the risk on Cam.  If Cam flames out, then we have another terrible year and get a shot at Lawrence. 

 

Draft OT 1st round because that's most important in protecting franchise QB.  What good is franchise QB if you send him out to be eaten by wolves?

Even if Cam flames out, we have way too much talent to ever go 1-15 or 2-14.  Trevor Lawrence isn't happening unless we trade CMC and Luke.

CMC, DJ Moore, Luke, Brian Burns, Mario Addison, with a hungry new coach, it's just not going to happen.

You have to tank on purpose to be bad enough for Lawrence, and we're not going to be doing that next year.  Even Kyle Allen is a competent QB who can win you a few games.

If Cam someone ends up being healthy and back to his old self, we can always trade Tua.

 

[CatTower]

2 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Even if Cam flames out, we have way too much talent to ever go 1-15 or 2-14.  Trevor Lawrence isn't happening unless we trade CMC and Luke.

CMC, DJ Moore, Luke, Brian Burns, Mario Addison, with a hungry new coach, it's just not going to happen.

You have to tank on purpose to be bad enough for Lawrence, and we're not going to be doing that next year.  Even Kyle Allen is a competent QB who can win you a few games.

If Cam someone ends up being healthy and back to his old self, we can always trade Tua.

 

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Oakland Raiders	Los Angeles Chargers
Chicago Bears	Green Bay Packers
Arizona Cardinals	Washington Redskins
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New Orleans Saints (Div.)	New Orleans Saints (Div.)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Div.)	Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Div.)

 

I think you are overestimating our defense.  The Bears and Redskins games will be the toughest to lose but the rest are losses with this defense.

[bigdog10]

21 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Even if Cam flames out, we have way too much talent to ever go 1-15 or 2-14.  Trevor Lawrence isn't happening unless we trade CMC and Luke.

CMC, DJ Moore, Luke, Brian Burns, Mario Addison, with a hungry new coach, it's just not going to happen.

You have to tank on purpose to be bad enough for Lawrence, and we're not going to be doing that next year.  Even Kyle Allen is a competent QB who can win you a few games.

If Cam someone ends up being healthy and back to his old self, we can always trade Tua.

 

We are one injury to CMC next year from being bengal level bad. 

[bobowilson]

1 minute ago, stbugs said:

Bengals would have beaten us today, with ease. There’s not a single team in the NFL that we would have beaten last week and this week.

Yeah but Perry Fewell is our coach, Scott Turner (Mike Shula but with an even dumber father) is our OC, and our team is checked out and not even trying

We'll have a real head coach next year who tries to motivate them to win and good young talent

We're not going 1-15 or 2-14

 

[amcoolio]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Great point on the D. We are the second worst D to the Dolphins by only 20 points. Since they gave up 59 points week 1, that would mean that since week 1, we were the WORST D in the NFL.

Since Boston, McCoy, Bradberry, Addison and Irvin are all FAs one has to wonder how we will be better on D. Well at least it means that we likely have to spend $30M on Short and Poe, SMH.

Seeing as how we have to draft OL to make that unit better, our D could be worse and that’s saying something.

The defense being bad was not personnel but piss poor coaching and planning. That will be fixed.

No need to tear down a house with a leaky roof. You renovate it and make it better.

[CatTower]

TOUCHDOWN JAGUARS!!

[ImaginaryKev]

Y'all we're bad but i don't know why ya'll are trying to project Trevor Lawrence scenarios lol

dire straights around here lol

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

The defense being bad was not personnel but piss poor coaching and planning. That will be fixed.

No need to tear down a house with a leaky roof. You renovate it and make it better.

Personnel played a role too. We traded out all of our size/strength at DE for speed.