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"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam


kungfoodude

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

you'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

Cornerback .. a story about a QB ..

Wrong thread for that ..

We're talking about the biggest superstar athlete since Michael Jordan here .. and you're talking about a cornerback .. lol

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5 minutes ago, WoahW said:

See it’s infuriating isn’t it? I’ve literally coached special Olympic kids that understand things better than Scot does. Throw in his views from before Cam was taken and it’s clear what his agenda is 

It's not infuriating, he's just attached to this specific insider's info and so he is more likely to believe it. I don't and we don't know anything about his views on Cam, nor does it really matter. He's entitled to his opinion and if he's wrong, he will hear plenty about it...and vice versa. 

Let's stop with the personal attacks and try and keep it on subject, please. Let's not ruin the moment with all this strife and the accusations. He thinks he will hold out, pretty much the bulk of everyone else does not. It is what it is. 

We all know nothing is decided yet, so we can jump on these tidbits until then but there is no reason to get personal about it. We can have a reasonable debate and if that fails, just disengage and move on to discussion with someone else. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is what I want to know too. We keep hearing these whispers of Cam's people wanting an extension. I mean, that makes sense. Why wouldn't they?

I've still seen no legit sources come out and specifically say that Cam is demanding an extension or else.

There are none.

@Mr. Scot is simply making it all up.

I have asked him to list 4 or 5 of these sources who supposedly have "insider" access but also post info publicly and he won't do so. 

I'd be interested in reading their stuff but have been unable to isolate who any of them are.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

You'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

Yeah and there are ample examples of players that do make statements like that and end up staying. If you want to go ahead and gather statistics on that(you know that is where you can win me over) and present a solid case, I am happy to hear it. Otherwise, there is no reason to assume that because X player and X organization parted ways, that it is likely or certain to happen here. 

Take the statements with a dose of skepticism but things can change and do change. Lots of time before the decision.

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44 minutes ago, mjligon said:

@Mr. Scot you can keep trying to talk above everyone all you want but at the end of the day all signs are pointing to Newton being a Panther in 2020. All this hypothetical "but negotiations" "but contracts" "but new regime" stuff you throwing around doesn't hold weight.

Panthers need a quarterback

Cam is a franchise quarterback

Cam is our quarterback.

end of story.

Its up to Cam to prove all of that.  If he can not stay healthy he wont be anyone's quarter back

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25 minutes ago, WoahW said:

I get what you’re saying but I’m done with it man. The shitting on Cam, just because he’s Cam is tiresome. Scot has made some bold ass stakes and then dismiss everything including what Cam himself said, that poo should not be ignored, at that point the intent is clear and it’s not a good one. 
 

You and most others like myself agree he might possibly not be here next year, but we also acknowledge he could be and then we discuss it from there. Those who say he has 0 chance of being back have no interest in an open dialogue 

Good grief you shat this thread to hell. You take the internet WAY too seriously.

 

Take a break.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah and there are ample examples of players that do make statements like that and end up staying. If you want to go ahead and gather statistics on that(you know that is where you can win me over) and present a solid case, I am happy to hear it. Otherwise, there is no reason to assume that because X player and X organization parted ways, that it is likely or certain to happen here. 

Take the statements with a dose of skepticism but things can change and do change. Lots of time before the decision.

Point being that those statements don't ultimately matter either way.

You want to say that a statement like this means the whole matter is closed. History and practice don't bear that out.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Point being that those statements don't ultimately matter either way.

You want to say that a statement like this means the whole matter is closed. History and practice don't bear that out.

That's a blanket statement because when have the Carolina Panthers ever had a franchise QB ..

History has never shown a situation like this before .. history never shows a team moving on from their franchise QB with a year left on the contract, you're nuts

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is what I want to know too. We keep hearing these whispers of Cam's people wanting an extension. I mean, that makes sense. Why wouldn't they? But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what Cam's people want. If Cam is willing to play out the final year of his contract then he can tell his people to STFU if it gets to the point to where it's gonna be either play it out or not be a Panther any longer.

I've still seen no legit sources come out and specifically say that Cam is demanding an extension or else.

It's a Huddle All Pro insider who that supposedly been pretty accurate in the past. I haven't personally laid eyes on the information myself but I don't really doubt that the claim was made. But we also don't know how many different layers are between that source and anyone in real power and we don't know if that was concrete information or more of a "current temperature of the situation." 

IMO, it's not particularly credible when you look at the facts, that he doesn't have much leverage and the statements he literally made in that article. If it was the case, I kind of doubt that it is anymore. And, I am also willing to say that it could easily change in the future. 

We don't know what we don't know.

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