"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Teddy Bridgewater?

Teddy is a good option. I am not sure we'd get him at less than $19 mil, though. I suspect he will have some serious interest in the offseason.

[therealmjl]

@Mr. Scot where are you getting that Cam will not play on his current deal? Where is this coming from.

[therealmjl]

Just now, SBiii said:

On exactly what do you base this "at cross purposes" conclusion?

Are you getting this directly from your "insiders" because there's no public evidence of a contract dispute.  (possibly I missed it)

He’s making it up like usual

[PantherBrew]

It has essentially come down to 2 rational groups of people's opinion when it comes down to Cam.  

• Let Cam get healthy and play 2020 for 19 mil and prove his health, sign extension
• Believes Cam can never be healthy long term and want someone different 

[WoahW]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that is a dead matter. Cam said what he said and I will take that 10 times out of 10 over what some rumors of his agent or people or whatever said. He has given zero indication that he is posturing in his past. 

See it’s infuriating isn’t it? I’ve literally coached special Olympic kids that understand things better than Scot does. Throw in his views from before Cam was taken and it’s clear what his agenda is 

[SBiii]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're assuming he's willing to play on that one year deal though.

As mentioned, that's not guaranteed.

But it could happen....

....why are you 100% unwilling to consider this is in the set of possible outcomes?

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that is a dead matter. Cam said what he said and I will take that 10 times out of 10 over what some rumors of his agent or people or whatever said. He has given zero indication that he is posturing in his past. 

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

You'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

[Khyber53]

Until Cam gets a chance to take a hike from center, peel out to his right, plant his foot, cut back against traffic and throw the ball downfield -- no one can say what will happen with Cam, his contract, the Panthers or the NFL. 

OTAs might give us that look. It might be training camp this summer. It might be week 1 of next year.

That foot, that shoulder... none of us know (unless one of y'all is Cam) how they are doing. If they are good or great, then there's no trade in the world worth giving him up. If one or both are still problematic, then wise people will try to seek a trade beneficial to Cam and the Panthers (more to the Panthers, though, honestly). 

No one knows right now, though. No "insider" can be trusted at this point because they are either making it up or are being fed untrustworthy information based on no actual testing of capabilities.

Let it go and hope he heals.

[SBiii]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, the info isn't mine. It comes from people who have been right way more often than not.

Who are these people? 

Please list 4 or 5 of them for me...

...I would like to start following what they are saying.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, mjligon said:

@Mr. Scot where are you getting that Cam will not play on his current deal? Where is this coming from.

It's been said in this forum, though more frequently in All Pro.

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

you'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

And you can find the same comments from players who actually do stay put.

Next...

[Khyber53]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

you'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

There is an off chance that he did want to stay in Jacksonville, but that it would require an entire regime change to keep him, along with that Brinks truck. Well, had he held on a bit longer...

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, mjligon said:

@Mr. Scot where are you getting that Cam will not play on his current deal? Where is this coming from.

This is what I want to know too. We keep hearing these whispers of Cam's people wanting an extension. I mean, that makes sense. Why wouldn't they? But, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what Cam's people want. If Cam is willing to play out the final year of his contract then he can tell his people to STFU if it gets to the point to where it's gonna be either play it out or not be a Panther any longer.

I've still seen no legit sources come out and specifically say that Cam is demanding an extension or else.

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

"I've said multiple times, over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that I want to play for one team my whole career."

Jalen Ramsey, November 2018

you'll find similar comments from Jaguars ownership about how they had no intention to trade him.

It's not necessarily lying, per se, but what's said and what ultimately happens don't always match up.

Oh Cam and Carolina are in a contract dispute now? Because they aren’t. They are literally just in the last year of his deal. Ramsey wanted a mega payday, Cam already got one big contract kid. Not similar situations at all