"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, WoahW said:

So what do you think is best for the Panthers? Do you think keeping Cam would be best or do you thinking trading him and either taking a QB this draft/riding Allen or Grier best? Simple answer right? I know you’ll come back with a long winded post but for real man the fug up, act your age and just state what you think is best for Carolina. 

I think Cam staying is best for Carolina even if it’s just to find out he isn’t the same anymore than we move on 

Keeping Cam is the easiest path if he's healthy and can remain so.

Believing that of someone who hasn't been able to do that in a long time is insanely risky.

[WoahW]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

People, can we not turn this into a pile on Scott/Snake/etc thread? That was not the intent, this wasn't intended(by me) to be a malicious attack on people who had been told that Cam may not want to play this last year.

I posted it to celebrate the fact that Cam himself does not appear to be ready to discard us as a franchise but still considers himself a Panther, whether he ends up here in 2020 or not. I think that is something we all need to be happy and thankful about. 

He's my damn quarterback and I'd love to have him back, that's what I know. Whether he comes back in 2020 or not, I'll always remember him for being one of the best players this franchise has ever seen and for that amazing 2015 run(not so much the finish). 

So let's chill on the personal attacks and just enjoy the fact that this man still wants to be a Panther.

I get what you’re saying but I’m done with it man. The shitting on Cam, just because he’s Cam is tiresome. Scot has made some bold ass stakes and then dismiss everything including what Cam himself said, that poo should not be ignored, at that point the intent is clear and it’s not a good one. 
 

You and most others like myself agree he might possibly not be here next year, but we also acknowledge he could be and then we discuss it from there. Those who say he has 0 chance of being back have no interest in an open dialogue 

[Happy Panther]

7 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

There is literally a 0% chance Cam Newton is not Week 1 Panthers starter in 2020

Nah. Might be a small chance but it ain't 0%.

[Captain Obvious]

I'm just here to see a certain poster's mental gymnastics. He's like the Simone Biles of the huddle when it comes to takes about Cam.

 

 

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Keeping Cam is the easiest path if he's healthy and can remain so.

Believing that of someone who hasn't been able to do that in a long time is insanely risky.

Stop with the what if’s. You have 2 choices 
 

Week 1 of the season next year, what’s best for Carolina Cam on the field or Cam on another team? 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, possibly months. But, it is coming fairly soon.

I am aware that the decision hasn't been made, but I also think you need to probably give in to that realization a little bit too. I do think you are a little too married to the idea that he is definitely gone. We really don't know that. Lots of steps from now until then, not the least of which is a coaching staff and front office overhaul. That's why I couldn't be as definitive as you, there are just too many moving parts. 

And there is nothing wrong with getting our hopes up. I think it is something to get our hopes up about because it definitely shows that Cam does actually WANT to be here. Whether that ends up being the correct business decision or whether the franchise wants that to be the case....to be determined. But it shows that he really does WANT to be here. You don't say that to people and especially in front of reporters if that isn't true. And we have no basis to question Cam's honesty. He's absolutely a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve(for which he has been praised and criticized about). 

Here's the thing...

I never said the decision was made. People act like I've said that, but I never did.

What I have said is that right now, the two sides are at cross purposes. Newton's people want the security of an extension and the Panthers aren't secure doing that. So unless one side changes their mind, they're probably going to wind up splitting.

Nothing about that is a done deal. It's just where things are right now.

And again, none of that is my info. It comes from people with way better connections than me.

[SBiii]

7 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

His leverage will be based on other teams desire to have him play for them, as well as his health. 

Cam can't trade himself so interest from other teams in no way helps him from a leverage perspective.  In fact, if he foremost goal is to stay in CLT interest from other teams would actually hurt his leverage.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

The one thing I would point out is that believing he's going to be healthy enough to complete a full season when he hasn't been for two years is a huge risk. 

Compared to what? Starting Kyle Allen 16 games? Starting Will Grier 16 games? Starting a rookie QB 16 games? 

Are you seeing a less risky option at $19.1 million? Heck, are you seeing one at $15 million? $10 million?

[LinvilleGorge]

Good grief. Listen, Tepper has told y'all what is going to happen. He wants to keep all of his options open. I highly doubt a decision is made on Cam until after the draft. Early on when Allen was showing promise we very well may have been leaning toward moving on thinking that Allen could potentially he the answer or at least a decent stop gap. That option is no longer on the table. We're about to get at least a glimpse of another potential option in Will Grier. Then there's the draft option. Even if we did end up taking a QB in the 1st and I'm still not sure we move on from Cam immediately.  Rodgers sat behind Favre for a few years, so did Rivera behind Brees. Mahomes say behind Alex Smith for a year. There's something to he said about the flexibility of not being forced to play a rookie QB right away.

Looking at the potential options on the table right now, I think it's very doubtful that we end up with a better solution than Cam Newton at QB next season and if that's the case then I fully expect Cam to be back.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Compared to what? Starting Kyle Allen 16 games? Starting Will Grier 16 games? Starting a rookie QB 16 games? 

Are you seeing a less risky option at $19.1 million? Heck, are you seeing one at $15 million? $10 million?

You're assuming he's willing to play on that one year deal though.

As mentioned, that's not guaranteed.

[Happy Panther]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Compared to what? Starting Kyle Allen 16 games? Starting Will Grier 16 games? Starting a rookie QB 16 games? 

Are you seeing a less risky option at $19.1 million? Heck, are you seeing one at $15 million? $10 million?

Teddy Bridgewater?

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's the thing...

I never said the decision was made. People act like I've said that, but I never did.

What I have said is that right now, the two sides are at cross purposes. Newton's people want the security of an extension and the Panthers aren't secure doing that. So unless one side changes their mind, they're probably going to wind up splitting.

Nothing about that is a done deal. It's just where things are right now.

And again, none of that is my info. It comes from people with way better connections than me.

Show me the receipts you keep bringing this narrative up but not one place or person has said Cam won’t finish his contract out. SHOW YOUR WORK 

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Keeping Cam is the easiest path if he's healthy and can remain so.

Believing that of someone who hasn't been able to do that in a long time is insanely risky.

July 2020 Cam's probably going to be healthy as a horse ..

Do you trade him for a second and third rounder and say I don't think he can remain healthy .. or do you hold on to him for 2020 and see if he can remain healthy? What it comes down to because your whole little "he's not going to play on a one year contract" when this situation isn't even what a "one year prove it contract" is, ain't happening.

Didn't Dak Prescott play this season having only a season left on his contract? Oh but you'll say .. Cam's been injured he's going to say I don't want to play with only a year left on my contract because I'm scared I might get hurt again ..

Newton would never say that.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, WoahW said:

I get what you’re saying but I’m done with it man. The shitting on Cam, just because he’s Cam is tiresome. Scot has made some bold ass stakes and then dismiss everything including what Cam himself said, that poo should not be ignored, at that point the intent is clear and it’s not a good one. 
 

You and most others like myself agree he might possibly not be here next year, but we also acknowledge he could be and then we discuss it from there. Those who say he has 0 chance of being back have no interest in an open dialogue 

Yeah but then there is no reason to engage him. Let him have his say and just ignore it. He's pretty attached to his views on the Cam situation but just because he is doesn't mean we have to engage him in pitched battles. It's fine! Let him think what he thinks and the majority of the rest of us can celebrate this good news. 

Don't let a disagreement ruin your enjoyment of what, IMO, is really, really, really awesome to hear. Cam wants to be here!