"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

[grimesgoat]

All depends on the rebuild.

If Tepper thinks we can rebuild and seriously compete next year with Cam, he stays.

But I think its more likely Tepper believes we need a 2-3 year rebuild, in which case Cam is gone for picks.

The latter is probably the safer move.  If Cam goes down yet again, we've wasted yet another year.

[Mr. Scot]

 

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Valid but the agent works for Cam, not vice versa. My guess is that a lot of that had an agenda behind it if it was from an agent, which is understandable since he wants a good situation for him and his client. If it came from the organization itself, it was probably just idle speculation. 

Either way, we will know in the coming weeks. 

More like months, at least a couple.

As I've pointed out to others though, if you look back at The sagas of numerous players and teams that have wound up parting ways, you'll find plenty of talk from both sides about how they really wanted to work things out before they eventually didn't.

Taking statements like this and getting your hopes up is a mistake. It doesn't really change anything.

[ncfan]

The more and more I read and listen

 

I really think Cam is back for atleast next year.

 

Tepper likes him

Without him, there is no hope or future at the most important position in football for us.

Lastly, found some comments by Josh Parcel on WFNZ interesting. If you're a coach, are you going to take a job with the current situation we have at QB,  or are you going to want to take a job where you have Cam potentially for 1 year.

 

No HC is going to be beating down the door to come here if we are looking at Will Grier and Allen as our QBs next year.  And if Tepper is wanting to swing for a good coach (which you know he will)  he is going to have a set in stone plan for the QB spot to pitch these guys (probably will be under wraps where we wont onow about until down the lines) thats not Allen or Grier.

Look at some of the other opening.  Dallas will have a locked down QB in Prescott.  Giants and Redskins will have Daniel Jones and Haskins.  And before you laugh at those 2, there is a reason why Haskins and Jones went top 15 while Grier went essentially 4th round in the same draft.  A HC prospect sees that.

 

 

 

Only way imo at this point, that Cam isnt on this team next year.  Is if they get enough trade value that will help them package to move up for a QB in this draft.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

There is literally a 0% chance Cam Newton is not Week 1 Panthers starter in 2020

[Davidson Deac II]

10 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

This doesn't help his negotiating position at all

In fact, he's giving up significant leverage

Its a news article based on an adhoc interview.  It has little to no impact on his leverage.  His leverage will be based on other teams desire to have him play for them, as well as his health.  Nothing in this article impacts that.  

[kungfoodude]

People, can we not turn this into a pile on Scott/Snake/etc thread? That was not the intent, this wasn't intended(by me) to be a malicious attack on people who had been told that Cam may not want to play this last year.

I posted it to celebrate the fact that Cam himself does not appear to be ready to discard us as a franchise but still considers himself a Panther, whether he ends up here in 2020 or not. I think that is something we all need to be happy and thankful about. 

He's my damn quarterback and I'd love to have him back, that's what I know. Whether he comes back in 2020 or not, I'll always remember him for being one of the best players this franchise has ever seen and for that amazing 2015 run(not so much the finish). 

So let's chill on the personal attacks and just enjoy the fact that this man still wants to be a Panther.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, WoahW said:

You are beyond the point of “acting” their champ. You have dismissed what both Tepper and Cam have said in favor of you narrative it’s pretty clear what you want and what you think will happen even though both parties have contradicted what your stance is and you wave the “well that sounds like media speak”.

Throw in the fact you are literally afraid to say what you would like to happen speaks volumes at least others who don’t want him here admit it and aren’t scared shitless of being wrong/called out on it

What I would like to happen is whatever is whatever's best for the Panthers.

If that means keeping Newton, fine. If it doesn't, also fine.

The one thing I would point out is that believing he's going to be healthy enough to complete a full season when he hasn't been for two years is a huge risk. 

[SBiii]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Taking things that are said when sides are negotiating at face value always turns out great.

You are assuming Cam and the Panthers are on opposite sides of some sort of imagined contractual conflict --- there is no evidence this is the case.

That Cam and the team are 100% on the same page is in the set of possible outcomes....ignoring that this could be the case is foolish.

[WoahW]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

 

More like months, at least a couple.

As I've pointed out to others though, if you look back at The sagas of numerous players and teams that have wound up parting ways, you'll find plenty of talk from both sides about how they really wanted to work things out before they eventually didn't.

Taking statements like this and getting your hopes up is a mistake. It doesn't really change anything.

And basically stating that Cam is lying about his intent or his words is pathetic and the sign of either a racist or someone who strongly dislikes the guy saying the words. You have ignored the fact Cam could have said nothing and instead said MULTIPLE TIMES TO REPORTERS how badly he wants to be here and how he even acknowledges it’s not in his hands but it’ll take a lot to get him out of Carolina. Neither side is upset with one another and neither are mad about the contract it’s not AB or anything similar yet you keep acting like it is. 
 

You’re dislike/hate/racism is really starting to show through when you call Cam a liar for what he said while he was out in the city giving back to multiple organizations and people 

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I would like to happen is whatever is whatever's best for the Panthers.

If that means keeping Newton, fine. If it doesn't, also fine.

The one thing I would point out is that believing he's going to be healthy enough to complete a full season when he hasn't been for two years is a huge risk. 

That's the thing .. if you think moving on from Newton with a year left on his contract, when he could conceivably be an NFL caliber QB again, is what's best for the Panthers .. you aren't a fan of the Panthers ..

The best chance of Panthers success comes when Cam Newton is the QB, period.

[SBiii]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The one thing I would point out is that believing he's going to be healthy enough to complete a full season when he hasn't been for two years is a huge risk. 

You don't say....some used to refer to Howard Cosell as "a master of the obvious".

Are your insider contacts still saying Cam will be gone?

[WoahW]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I would like to happen is whatever is whatever's best for the Panthers.

If that means keeping Newton, fine. If it doesn't, also fine.

The one thing I would point out is that believing he's going to be healthy enough to complete a full season when he hasn't been for two years is a huge risk. 

So what do you think is best for the Panthers? Do you think keeping Cam would be best or do you thinking trading him and either taking a QB this draft/riding Allen or Grier best? Simple answer right? I know you’ll come back with a long winded post but for real man the fug up, act your age and just state what you think is best for Carolina. 
 

I think Cam staying is best for Carolina even if it’s just to find out he isn’t the same anymore than we move on 

[TheRed]

Seems like every thread about Cam's future with the team is always derailed by Scot trying to dictate the conversation with the same take over and over just reworded differently.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

More like months, at least a couple.

As I've pointed out to others though, if you look back at The sagas of numerous players and teams that have wound up parting ways, you'll find plenty of talk from both sides about how they really wanted to work things out before they eventually didn't.

Taking statements like this and getting your hopes up is a mistake. It doesn't really change anything.

Yeah, possibly months. But, it is coming fairly soon.

I am aware that the decision hasn't been made, but I also think you need to probably give in to that realization a little bit too. I do think you are a little too married to the idea that he is definitely gone. We really don't know that. Lots of steps from now until then, not the least of which is a coaching staff and front office overhaul. That's why I couldn't be as definitive as you, there are just too many moving parts. 

And there is nothing wrong with getting our hopes up. I think it is something to get our hopes up about because it definitely shows that Cam does actually WANT to be here. Whether that ends up being the correct business decision or whether the franchise wants that to be the case....to be determined. But it shows that he really does WANT to be here. You don't say that to people and especially in front of reporters if that isn't true. And we have no basis to question Cam's honesty. He's absolutely a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve(for which he has been praised and criticized about).