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"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

kungfoodude

By kungfoodude,
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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I'm sure that you are largely of the opinion that your sources are because you largely weigh in on that when the subject comes up. I never said that you were inflexible because you have given that thinks could change. But, you must admit that the bulk of your discourse on that matter has been supporting the idea that there is rift between Cam's camp and the team and that he will likely not be here next year.

As I said, it doesn't mean you're opinion is invalid, it just means you have chosen that specific thing to believe, based on the information you have. 

Consequently, when Cam makes a statement like that or Tepper makes a statement saying if Cam is healthy he is the starter, some people will choose to take those statements at face value. Neither side is wrong or right until something actually transpires. It's just a disagreement on what we think the situation is. None of the sources likely have a whole pictures, just little snippets. Only the team and Cam probably know the bulk of the story and the situation. 

I believe what I believe, but I think if you look back you'll see I've been more open to other possibilities than those taking the other side.

As to the statements, did Tepper say, "if he's healthy, he's our starter" or did he say "when he's healthy, he's an elite player"?

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I believe what I believe, but I think if you look back you'll see I've been more open to other possibilities than those taking the other side.

As to the statements, did Tepper say, "if he's healthy, he's our starter" or did he say "when he's healthy, he's an elite player"?

It doesn't come across that way just because the bulk of your arguments are for one particular narrative. I don't doubt that you aren't open to other possibilities but when the majority of your posts on the matter are for one specific one, I think you can see how some will just interpret that as you pushing a specific result. It doesn't make them right about it, it just makes it what it is. 

As to the second statement, that really is reading too heavily between the lines, IMO. That math doesn't compute. Making a statement about his health into a statement about his value as a player is making a big logical jump. I can easily see how Tepper's statement could be interpreted as an open question about Cam's injury history. That's reasonable. Turning that into a judgement on him as a player is a pretty big stretch though.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It doesn't come across that way just because the bulk of your arguments are for one particular narrative. I don't doubt that you aren't open to other possibilities but when the majority of your posts on the matter are for one specific one, I think you can see how some will just interpret that as you pushing a specific result. It doesn't make them right about it, it just makes it what it is.

But it's okay if people on the other side aren't open to other possibilities?

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

They can speak for themselves.

And if you read just a few posts above, you'll see where I said the exact opposite of what you claim I did.

I suppose it's easier to argue with what you say that I said rather than what I actually said, it's just not valid.

Lol only one spoke up Igo and he is definitely not an insider nor does he have sources. You are staking all your belief in this “all-pro scooper” which would be who exactly? What have they been right about? Have they ever been wrong? 
 

I get this forum is like the only thing you got going for you but come on, if you share your sources you might actually show some info that changes others minds instead you keep saying they can speak for themselves and dig in your ways again. Why? Serious question why won’t you name the person besides Igo that you believe to be 100% correct on this situation. 

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On 12/18/2019 at 1:09 PM, kungfoodude said:

Jesus fuging Christ, can we just have one GODDAMNED thread that doesn't turn into a goddamn Tinderbox fuging shitslinging fest? 

God fuging dammit. WTF is goddamn wrong with you fuging people?? Do fuging any of you even give a fug about this goddamn team or even Cam Newton??? Or are you just here to fuging snipe at each other over old threads that you bickered over. Jesus H. Buttfuging Christ, this is unbelievable.

this thread has been an interesting read save for your baby screaming posts

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31 minutes ago, WoahW said:

Lol only one spoke up Igo and he is definitely not an insider nor does he have sources. You are staking all your belief in this “all-pro scooper” which would be who exactly? What have they been right about? Have they ever been wrong?

I get this forum is like the only thing you got going for you but come on, if you share your sources you might actually show some info that changes others minds instead you keep saying they can speak for themselves and dig in your ways again. Why? Serious question why won’t you name the person besides Igo that you believe to be 100% correct on this situation. 

I'll leave it up to him whether he wants to post in this thread. Can't blame him for not wanting to.

As for the rest... :eyeroll:

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