"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Q&A with The Athletic. I think it was about the time he was put on injured reserve.

She also said that Rivera and Hurney would have offered him an extension but Tepper wasn't willing.

You are, as always, keeping out key facts to push your narrative.

Tepper stated he was unsure about giving Newton a top of the market, lucrative, big contract.  Not extending him in general.

That is a huge difference.

[MHS831]

[SOJA]

If Cam's healthy a three year extension makes sense for both parties 

[rico6]

21 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

He never stated as such.

What Tepper did say, is that he was unsure about giving Newton a top-of-market contract, and wanted to see how his health would fare

Which is totally fair and a correct approach imho

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

26 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Which is totally fair and a correct approach imho

I agree.  And it paints a completely different narrative than "Tepper doesn't want to extend Newton".  Especially when Tepper has made follow up statements confirming what he actually stated.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Much talk about a re-build but you plug Cam Newton into the starting QB position and this is a 13-3 team with a fearsome offense ..

The only way to get an offensive head coach in here with Cam was if Cam wasn't playing because with Cam, the Panthers would never be bad enough to fire Rivera

[mav1234]

11 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Much talk about a re-build but you plug Cam Newton into the starting QB position and this is a 13-3 team with a fearsome offense ..

we might have a winning record but this is not a 13-3 team with Cam.  The defense is garbage and the offense is basically 2 players.  Even with Cam as the third, we aren't one of the best teams in the league, or even close.

[raz]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

we might have a winning record but this is not a 13-3 team with Cam.  The defense is garbage and the offense is basically 2 players.  Even with Cam as the third, we aren't one of the best teams in the league, or even close.

that dude thinks cam is the biggest sports star since michael jordan so i don't think you're gonna get anywhere

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

we might have a winning record but this is not a 13-3 team with Cam.  The defense is garbage and the offense is basically 2 players.  Even with Cam as the third, we aren't one of the best teams in the league, or even close.

You can't judge a defense when the QB leading the offense is so trash ..

How good do you think any defense will look when the QB throws 4 interceptions .. the defense looks so bad because they know the offense is trash and won't pick them up

[Mr. Scot]

I remember Rodrigue talking about it, but the only source I can find online right now is Jason LaCanfora (who said basically the same thing).

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Cam Newton's long-term future with the Carolina Panthers has been talked about in organizations around the league this week, with the former Most Valuable Player put on injured reserve. However, sources said Newton's ability to land another lucrative contract extension with new owner David Tepper was in question long before that.

Tepper, who purchased the team for roughly $2.3 billion in May of 2018, told associates at the time of the transaction that he was unsure about whether Newton would prove to merit another top-of-market contract and was interested to see how the quarterback would fare. He had some reservations about the prospect of a new deal even then, sources said, and considered that position to be under review as he evaluated the entire organization and decided where to begin making changes.

Panthers ownership was unsure about giving Cam Newton another big extension even before the foot issue

So yes, Tepper was questioning a Newton extension at the time he bought the team, and in the two years since Newton hasn't stayed healthy.

The Q&A with Rodrigue where she mentioned Rivera and Hurney being willing to give Newton an extension when Tepper was less so is here. As I suspected, it was dated at the time of Newton going on IR. A subscription is required for the whole thing, but here's the pertinent quote.

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Here's my honest opinion, being around everybody every day: If it were just Ron and Marty calling the shots moving forward, I have more confidence that Newton gets the extension. Those two were in the building, living, breathing that intense adrenaline high and indestructible winning feeling that comes with a healthy Cam Newton. They know what it feels like; they know what he can do WHEN HEALTHY (being the operative phrase). They spent a thousand hours pre-draft in 2011 in CLT and in Atlanta, getting to know Cam and what he can do. But they aren't the only decision-makers here. David Tepper is making huge changes to the business model of the franchise, and the football side is next. He has made big-picture decisions in business all his life, to get him to where he is now. He will rely on that instinct to tell him what to do moving forward; and he has not seen in person a large enough body of work from a healthy Cam to totally put moving on without him out of his mind. So factoring Tepper in means, to me, that things are a lot less certain for Cam as a Carolina Panther.

 

[Davidson Deac II]

Just now, mav1234 said:

we might have a winning record but this is not a 13-3 team with Cam.  The defense is garbage and the offense is basically 2 players.  Even with Cam as the third, we aren't one of the best teams in the league, or even close.

Special teams wasn't that great either.  My guess is if Cam was healthy, we might be fighting for a wild card spot with the Vikes and Rams.  At best.  

 

 

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Special teams wasn't that great either.  My guess is if Cam was healthy, we might be fighting for a wild card spot with the Vikes and Rams.  At best.  

 

 

You under estimate how much morale a team loses when not having it's starting QB

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I remember Rodrigue talking about it, but the only source I can find online right now is Jason LaCanfora (who said basically the same thing).

Panthers ownership was unsure about giving Cam Newton another big extension even before the foot issue

So yes, Tepper was questioning a Newton extension at the time he bought the team, and in the two years since Newton hasn't stayed healthy.

The Q&A with Rodrigue where she mentioned Rivera and Hurney being willing to give Newton an extension when Tepper was less so is here. As I suspected, it was dated at the time of Newton going on IR. A subscription is required for the whole thing, but here's the pertinent quote.

 

On the tepper comment.  He said he was unsure that he would prove to merit a top of the market contract, not that he doesn't believe he does.  

On the Rodrigue comment she said it was her opinion. You said in another comment she made that was her opinion and not fact so you dismissed it.  So you must dismiss this comment too

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

On the tepper comment.  He said he was unsure that he would prove to merit a top of the market contract, not that he doesn't believe he does.  

On the Rodrigue comment she said it was her opinion. You said in another comment she made that was her opinion and not fact so you dismissed it.  So you must dismiss this comment too

My actual statement...

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 he was already iffy on extending Newton when he bought the team

That doesn't state the reason behind it. Just that he was questioning it, and LaCanfora confirms that.

And it is all her opinion, which is why I say things like "Rodrigue said (X)." In fact, when I posted a link to her Q&A originally, I said this:

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Basically, she believes that if it were solely up to Ron Rivera and Marty Hurney, they'd offer Cam an extension.

But she doesn't believe David Tepper would, or will.

Tepper, she points out, doesn't have the kind of connection to Newton that Rivera and Hurney do, and he's a businessman known for making unemotional decisions.

For the record, she also doesn't assume that Ron and Marty will still be here next year.

Is she right? No idea, but that's her take.

Rodrigue Q&A on The Athletic