The injury excuse on defense ....

[Mitchl13]

Well if Tepper didn’t make Ron switch to a 3-4 because a computer told him to, we might not be in this mess. And injuries of course.

[Moo Daeng]

I would expect and hope the new staff implements the system they believe in and not try to mold it around s player.

[ellis]

 

[SOJA]

Here's the guys you 100% keep on defense. 

DT-KK short, McCoy if he signs a relatively team friendly deal (would not blame him one bit if he gets paid somewhere else)

Edge- Brian Burns, Miller

LB-Luke, Shaq

Secondary- Donte Jackson, Reid

 

Everyone else I'm either cool with letting go or finding a better replacement- Now obviously not EVERYONE is getting replaced or cut so my priority positions are in order NT-CB-FS-EDGE

 

Edit: I am making a big assumption here that Bradberry gets paid somewhere else this offseason but otherwise I try to keep him too

[Waldo]

I don't mind thr 3-4, the line's personel is completly backwards. Those need to be run stuffers and block eaters not pass rushers. Our D this year is a completle failure to address the run ans only the pass. Even when healthy, its just better pass rush and still a failure against the run.

Whichever direction they go in, i am fine as long as they don't commit to players that don't fit that direction. What we have right now is a complete disaster and should be enough motivation to pick a clear direction and need to make those tough decisions. If the players don't fit, get something for them or cut them. Enough square pegs into round holes BS we have had to endure.

[Forty-Eight]

2 hours ago, DominoCollege said:

I love me some Luke, but what is the point of a "rebuild" around a player that albiet the greatest of this generation, likely wont be around more than a few more years? By the time the "rebuild" is done, we will be wishing him happy retirement and hoping he becomes a coach for us. 

Ohh..you dont mean a rebuild, you just mean a new defensive scheme? Cool. New coaches and coordinators incoming. Changes are sure to happen. 

 

Because if you have a good culture, franchise, owner and HC then Luke could be like a Ray Lewis who still helped the Ravens win another SB late in his career. But yeah we really ain’t that 

[stirs]

I think Butler could play DE in a 34

[Captain Morgan]

can Burns play 4-3 olb?

 

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, ellis said:

 

This is very true...you do have to recognize human nature as well.  Once a team has nothing to play for its really tough to get motivated.  Still, I hear ya.

[stirs]

2 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

can Burns play 4-3 olb?

 

Nope, not like TD or Shaq.

Probably best to draft a thumper ILB, NT with the collateral we get from trading Luke and free agency.

Then put KK and Butler as the two ends of our new 34

[TheWiz]

What kind of "audible calling" power does Luke have on the defense? I'm sure he can do whatever he wants but I just wanted to ask. 

[SetfreexX]

Lol at this take, we don't have a 3-4 NT and right now Obabda / Horton are being asked to anchor at 3-4 DE when they are true 4-3 guys, the 3-4 has given us the best sack season we've had in years. We have no depth, you resolve that with FA / draft acquisitions. 

ILB - Shaq / Kuechly -- Off ball, chase & cover

Edge - Irvin - Pass Rusher

DE - McCoy / Butler - both were better known as penetration guys vs the run / not space eaters 

Doesn't matter that we have 5 1st rounders in the box when the guys around them are playing out of position / scheme. The transition was always going to have growing pains, the Ravens went through it when they took Lewis from a 4-3 to a 3-4. 

4-3 Pass rush capable DE's are not coming out of the college draft classes as frequently as 3-4 edge rushers, the personnel available is what you have to consider, you're going to get better prospects via the draft for a 3-4. We are literally in the first year of the transition.

Give us an offense that can score / maintain a lead and that will help the run defense as well. However we won't do that until the real QB1 returns. 

[JARROD]

4 hours ago, SOJA said:

Here's the guys you 100% keep on defense. 

DT-KK short, McCoy if he signs a relatively team friendly deal (would not blame him one bit if he gets paid somewhere else)

Edge- Brian Burns, Miller

LB-Luke, Shaq

Secondary- Donte Jackson, Reid

 

Everyone else I'm either cool with letting go or finding a better replacement- Now obviously not EVERYONE is getting replaced or cut so my priority positions are in order NT-CB-FS-EDGE

 

Edit: I am making a big assumption here that Bradberry gets paid somewhere else this offseason but otherwise I try to keep him too

I like Bruce Irvin, McCoy and I like Poe too.

the middle really stopped working when Poe went away.

[Mr. Scot]

5 hours ago, ellis said:

 

Lord, that play was ugly.

I was just flat disgusted after watching that.