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Kyle Allen. Despite being written off already, I still see potential there.

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firefox1234 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

Most Cam Nut huggers will never give Allen a chance. They point to some stats while ignoring others. Fact is Newton is done in Carolina and most will move on when Newton does. Whoever is QB next year will need an actual LT and LG. 

Says the man with a loser as his profile pic. At least "CAMVP" switched over to a guy worth talking about.

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firefox1234 Grand Master

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Just now, Jus Rob said:

Intangibles? What intangibles? This line hasn't done him any favors but I don't see improvement on the mistakes he's making 

People forget the dog poo OL that surrounded Cam his rookie year and every year bar the 2015 season when the planets and stars aligned and the guy has carried the team to the detriment of his health. That is the standard fans should put there QBs at, not Kyle "Moxie" Allen's standards. I don't know how people can lower the bar so much....

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The NFL Shield At Midfield Grand Master

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One word: Underdog.

Maybe it's just me but one thing that always gets me emotional when it comes to sports, to athletes and certainly to the Panthers is when they accomplish a little more than just a win.

Not that I have anything against great teams or players. My second favorite team is the Patriots, which are always reliable and consistent winners, but it always meant something more to me when a team or a guy that nobody notices or gives a chance to, accomplishes the impossible or the unimaginable. And even the Patriots's QB is led by one of those guys that proved even though he didn't have the name, the pedigree, or the fame, turned out to be one of the greats that every year is mentioned in sentences with some of the greats.

To me the Panthers have always been that team. We have always flew under the radar. We never had the media coverage other great teams get. Our best wide receiver, Steve Smith, was a problem-athelete and considered too small by many to ever make a difference on the NFL level. 10 years into his career and that's certainly not the case. He proved his doubters wrong. Our first true franchise QB, love him or hate him, was also a nobody, played in NFL Europe, and came in as a back-up, but out of all the QB this team has been through, he managed to be the first true franchise QB, and the only one to ever take us to a Superbowl. And on that day, he played toe-to-toe and throw-for-throw with Tom Brady.

And now here we are. The nobodys once again, being lead by another nobody. Mot of the fans don't even want him starting. And even more believe he won't even be here next year. He was passed over by an unproven rookie with a name this year, and has been passed over many, many times before in the past. Despite the fact that he won more games than lost as a starter on this team, he gets very little credit and is doubted by most.

Most around here already have labeled me as a Allen lover. Do I love him? No, I wouldn't go that far. But I do like him and I love the idea of him being another diamond in the rough. And I really hope this guy comes out there and proves his doubters wrong. So do I support him with all my heart? You're GOD DAMN RIGHT I DO! Kyle Allen fits this team and this team's history like a glove and because of that, this Sunday my heart's going to be 100% behind this guy and behind this team.

I'm excited! And if you are not, go screw a sheep!

PS: One more thing. We are going to win on Sunday!

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TheMaulClaw Mentor

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I think Allen has good potential. It's his first year as a starter.  The guy is 23. People wanted to dismiss his wins when were winning and now they want to use it to call him bad. Our problem has been D. Allen played well enough to beat the Saints in NO. He played well enough to beat Greenbay in GB.  And now that were in tank mode I'm sure were going to use that against him too.  I'm not saying hes the future...but I wouldnt like to see him cut that's for sure. I think we should bring in another guy to compete for that spot.  Obviously hes shown more then Grier or Grier would be playing.

 

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7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I see the potential for him to be a long-term stable backup QB. As a starter? No, I don't see the potential there. Sorry, I just don't.

TRUTH ^^^^This x 1M 

FFS ... How many times do the majority of us with any amount of common sense and no emotional investment in the “Cam vs Kyle” fake debate have to say this?

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Khyber53 Grand Master

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7 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Fumble issues should have been fixed by now. I'm starting to think that he may not even be a backup.

No one could have held onto the ball with that hit he took from behind this weekend. Moton didn't even shout "Watch Out!"

That kid has been knocked around worse than David Carr in Houston and is playing better than David Carr in Carolina. If you look at any of the first time starting QBs that have been fielded this season in the NFL and think any of them have potential, then you have to put Allen on the same list.

One more yard of push from our offensive line in two games this season, and the kid would have two more wins. That same line couldn't get one more yard for Cam and Christian for a win against Tampa. And let's not even talk about could the defense maybe frikkin' tackle someone?

Could he be a good QB under the right conditions, maybe. It's hard to say right now because he hasn't played in anything close to optimal or even decent conditions. Let's be honest, it's pretty amazing he isn't already on IR.

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