Pats tape shows 8 minutes of Bengals sideline footage

[Ornias]

Forfeit their entire draft and ban Belichick for life. 

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Probably so. There would probably have been a public outcry to completely destroy the Pats entire organization.

The NFL always protects itself, regardless of the integrity of the games themselves. 

[billionairemonk]

why exactly is this a problem?  someone please tell me what i'm missing.  if the signals are being given so players on the field can see them, then the other team can see them. filming them and reviewing the tapes after the game doesn't help during the game. the video would have to be live for the coaches during the game for there to be an advantage which doesn't make sense because they could just look at the other sideline to see the signals.

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, billionairemonk said:

why exactly is this a problem?  someone please tell me what i'm missing.  if the signals are being given so players on the field can see them, then the other team can see them. filming them and reviewing the tapes after the game doesn't help during the game. the video would have to be live for the coaches during the game for there to be an advantage which doesn't make sense because they could just look at the other sideline to see the signals.

Because the NFL very specifically forbids it.

[billionairemonk]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Because the NFL very specifically forbids it.

thank you for the clarification.

[billionairemonk]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because the NFL very specifically forbids it.

so, instead of filming, they could hire people with excellent vision and this is moot?  not intending to be argumentative, trying to understand the rules from others who know more about them than me.

[KillerKat]

4 hours ago, KillerKat said:

Btw guys, they're not going to take away their SB wins and award them to the loser. The best they can do is just add an asterisk on each win, which is fine by me. What I would also really like to see for the long term, is a lifetime ban from the HOF for Brady and Belicheat. For short term, take away their first round picks for at least the next 2-3 years.

...and actually the more I think about it, the more I think a first round pick should be taken away for each SB win. So take away their first round picks for the next 6 years.

[Sgt Schultz]

8 minutes ago, billionairemonk said:

so, instead of filming, they could hire people with excellent vision and this is moot?  not intending to be argumentative, trying to understand the rules from others who know more about them than me.

The problem with trying to steal signals/signs is not all the signs are legitimate.  So reviewing them from memory is probably going to yield limited results for most people.  But looking at tapes over and over, and comparing the various gestures to the play that was actually run will eventually lead to finding what the indicator signal or hot signal is, as well as decoding the rest.

"Look, whenever the coach grabs his crotch, the very next signal is the hot one.....unless he grabs his crotch again after he is done.  Oh wait, I think he was playing with himself that time.  Never mind.  And if he picks his nose after grabbing his crotch, that is always a quick slant."

[billionairemonk]

5 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

The problem with trying to steal signals/signs is not all the signs are legitimate.  So reviewing them from memory is probably going to yield limited results for most people.  But looking at tapes over and over, and comparing the various gestures to the play that was actually run will eventually lead to finding what the indicator signal or hot signal is, as well as decoding the rest.

"Look, whenever the coach grabs his crotch, the very next signal is the hot one.....unless he grabs his crotch again after he is done.  Oh wait, I think he was playing with himself that time.  Never mind.  And if he picks his nose after grabbing his crotch, that is always a quick slant."

 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Can't believe I'm gonna say this but I agree with S.A.S take on it this morning. If the NFL does nothing after Spygate, deflate gate, and now Chiligate, fug it, if you can't beat em, join em. 

[billionairemonk]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Can't believe I'm gonna say this but I agree with S.A.S take on it this morning. If the NFL does nothing after Spygate, deflate gate, and now Chiligate, fug it, if you can't beat em, join em. 

^Chiligate

did you come up with that?

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, billionairemonk said:

^Chiligate

did you come up with that?

Yes. Yes I did. 

[billionairemonk]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

Yes. Yes I did. 

that's a good one.  i think it'll stick

[Mr. Scot]

3 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Okay, keep expecting Belicheck to get banned for the belief something might have happened.  I'll be waiting to see if more evidence is found first.

I'm not actually predicting anything so much as talking about what I believe.