Pats tape shows 8 minutes of Bengals sideline footage

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

FWIW Belichick admits what happened was wrong but says he had no knowledge or involvement. Who really believes him though?

A) no idea why other teams or the NFL is letting a club film games they aren’t a part of. 

B) Belichick has gotten caught stealing signals how many times now? 

C) The NFL knows if they take any action against Belichick, Brady and him will just retire. 

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, mc52beast said:

Including signal calls

 Belicheck and Brady should never be considered as the greatest coach/ QB in NFL history

I've said all along Brady shouldn't be considered GOAT with cheating circling around his head. fug em.

[KillerKat]

58 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They should get the fuging book thrown at them this time. How many times do you have to cheat before you are a repeat offender?

Individual players get crushed for poo like this by the NFL.

There needs to be an asterisk on each SB win.

[1of10Charnatives]

7 minutes ago, t96 said:

FWIW Belichick admits what happened was wrong but says he had no knowledge or involvement. Who really believes him though?

Answer: No one with half a brain.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if a film crew did film eight minutes thinking they would want to cut it down to a few seconds.  It doesn't make it right, but there is zero evidence they were doing other teams for this series, which is a key component of the sort of punishment they should receive.

A film crew working for the Patriots just happening to accidentally film something that would be of great benefit to the Patriots is a little outside my believability range.

[Daywa1ker]

Just now, Harbingers said:

A) no idea why other teams or the NFL is letting a club film games they aren’t a part of. 

B) Belichick has gotten caught stealing signals how many times now? 

A - Don't teams get full recordings of everybodies games for game film?  Real question, do they have to record it themselves? Or does the league send out footage of all games to each team with the sideline cropped out? 

Are there actual rules against taping certain parts of the field during a game where everyone's every move is already being watched and recorded?  Or is this just bad sportsmanship.

[mav1234]

5 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

A) no idea why other teams or the NFL is letting a club film games they aren’t a part of. 

B) Belichick has gotten caught stealing signals how many times now? 

C) The NFL knows if they take any action against Belichick, Brady and him will just retire. 

the NFL approved the documentary itself, but did not approve filming at the Browns stadium.  The Browns, however, did. 

But there are rules against filming sidelines that these contractors clearly broke.  Nobody is disputing they broke the rules.

[1of10Charnatives]

Just now, mav1234 said:

the NFL approved the documentary itself, but did not approve filming at the Browns stadium.  The Browns, however, did. 

But there are rules against filming sidelines that these contractors clearly broke.  Nobody is disputing they broke the rules.

When it’s the same organization that has been caught repeatedly cheating in the past, including this exact type of cheating, there should be absolutely zero benefit of the doubt. If you catch your former crack addict cousin leaving your house with the tv in his hands at 3 am, do you buy whatever bs he spouts?

[KillerKat]

Btw guys, they're not going to take away their SB wins and award them to the loser. The best they can do is just add an asterisk on each win, which is fine by me. What I would also really like to see for the long term, is a lifetime ban from the HOF for Brady and Belicheat. For short term, take away their first round picks for at least the next 2-3 years.

[t96]

16 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Also to note that if the independent contractors are from the Boston area they’re more than likely patriots fans. I wouldn’t expect them to give up info

Wearing Bruins gear, yeah you won’t get them to talk unless some media org. can outbid Kraft for his silence...

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

But there are rules against filming sidelines that these contractors clearly broke.  Nobody is disputing they broke the rules.

And did so in a way that just coincidentally happened to benefit the team that was paying them for their services? 

[mav1234]

Just now, 1of10Charnatives said:

When it’s the same organization that has been caught repeatedly cheating in the past, including this exact type of cheating, there should be absolutely zero benefit of the doubt. If you catch your former crack addict cousin leaving your house with the tv in his hands at 3 am, do you buy whatever bs he spouts?

that is a dumb analogy.  what if your crack addict cousin runs a shop and his employee is the one with the TV in his hands?  you obviously suspect your cousin but you need more proof.

[mav1234]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

And did so in a way that just coincidentally happened to benefit the team that was paying them for their services? 

Luckily for the rest of the league, there's no evidence the Patriots gained any benefit from this particular case, and they're hopefully going to suffer a very harsh penalty for it.

If this is really an isolated thing to the CLE-CIN game, I doubt it'll be a severe punishment, unfortunately.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Also to note that if the independent contractors are from the Boston area they’re more than likely patriots fans. I wouldn’t expect them to give up info

About the only way that happens is if they can threaten them with something. This not being a legal matter, I don't know what they would be.

Mind you, if they did dig up something shady on somebody, I suppose it's possible.