A look into the Panthers future - Spoiler alert

[TheRumGone]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

How is that any different than wasting Steve Smith or Julius Peppers? We are pretty good at wasting HOF talents. It's a Carolina Panthers special.

I didn’t say it was different in that post. But since you are asking yes it’s much different.

one plays qb, the most important position on the field. And he was a franchise changing player. 

the other is talked about like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary. The best of the best.

at one point we had the best QB and MLB in the game on the same team. Truly rare.

[Lucian]

15 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

It sucks that we didn't take advantage of cams prime while we had it. But one of the main reasons for that is gone and im hoping the other one is gone before the season starts

Ron literally ran a college style RPO offense in order to put cam in position to succeed. If anyone screwed cam it was hurney and gettleman for not getting him an oline.

[Ricky Spanish]

28 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Oh absolutely it's possible, and not unheard of. But any heir apparent is going to need some Cam Newton traits in his game with the holes in this roster and the state of our OL. Whoever it is will have to be able to make something out of nothing like Newton has done often here, let's just be real. How many rookies that will be available where we are picking actually fit that bill? How many FA's that won't break the bank? So far we seem to have virtually no confidence of any kind in the quarterback we drafted last year, and Allen is proving more and more why he's a backup. It's looking more and more like 2021 or 2022 will be when we make a move for the future quarterback. Unless you guys want us to trade the farm to move up in the 2020 draft. Whatever happens, these penny pinching types in anguish at the thought of 19 million in cap space for Newton better get used to that, whoever the next QB is will be getting paid accordingly with the league average when their time comes like any other quarterback, and it will not come cheap by any means. Otherwise accept being the Browns for the next decade or more.

I could honestly see us going the rebuild over 2 years route. Tank next year and attempt to get high enough to take Trevor Lawrence or someone else at the top of next year's draft. We have a lot of holes that will require a lot of attention. 

[uncfan888]

And he's a Ron apologist. What a lame

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I didn’t say it was different in that post. But since you are asking yes it’s much different.

one plays qb, the most important position on the field. And he was a franchise changing player. 

the other is talked about like Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary. The best of the best.

at one point we had the best QB and MLB in the game on the same team. Truly rare.

It's not different, IMO. In the history of this franchise, we have had very few HOF talents and we've wasted them all. 

The thing that is really going to suck is if we end up watching Cam and/or Luke spend the HOF clinching portions their careers elsewhere. That's when it would really sting.

[TheRumGone]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's not different, IMO. In the history of this franchise, we have had very few HOF talents and we've wasted them all. 

The thing that is really going to suck is if we end up watching Cam and/or Luke spend the HOF clinching portions their careers elsewhere. That's when it would really sting.

It’s different in terms of winning Super Bowls and positional value. But yeah I agree with everything else. Or if they win a super bowl elsewhere.

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

I could honestly see us going the rebuild over 2 years route. Tank next year and attempt to get high enough to take Trevor Lawrence or someone else at the top of next year's draft. We have a lot of holes that will require a lot of attention. 

TBQH, I think the "tank" notion is a little bit overused in the NFL specifically. You have to remember that players have incentives in their contracts for statistical milestones and also playoff bonuses, divisional championship bonuses, etc, etc. So do the coaches. The reality is that we are not likely to be able to get a new head coach to buy into the idea of truly tanking and attempting not to win. Frankly, if it was a coach that had any real pride, he'd never agree to it in the first place.

That's why you see teams like Miami all of a sudden winning when all the rage during the first portion of the season is that they were intentionally tanking. That really doesn't happen much. Players and coaches really do WANT to win, even if it doesn't help the long term goal of getting the best overall draft pick. 

Would you really want a coach and/or players that were just okay going to work every day and mailing it in? Honestly.

[Black&BlueBubba]

5 hours ago, TheRed said:

At the end of the day there are a number of fans in the Carolinas who just want a presentable and relatable white guy back behind center. It's why Kyle Allen was all but confirmed to be Tom Brady 2.0 after a handful of starts until guys couldn't lie to themselves anymore. Even still there are some who are perfectly fine losing as long as the quarterback isn't wearing clothing deemed unacceptable in the postgame presser.

And there are some people who believe every panther fan are those people.  

[SmartyHurney]

Well, we know this poo aint going to happen now.

[joeyxfresco]

Spoiler alert:
 

We keep Cam at least until 2021. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It's not different, IMO. In the history of this franchise, we have had very few HOF talents and we've wasted them all. 

The thing that is really going to suck is if we end up watching Cam and/or Luke spend the HOF clinching portions their careers elsewhere. That's when it would really sting.

Honestly, this has always been the most likely outcome.  Very few players of their caliber every finish their careers with the team that drafted them.  Cam and Luke will be no different.  As great as both have been here they will be replaced before fans are ready to let go.  I will certainly miss them both because they ARE unique talents and great to watch play.  But I'm old enough to know that no one is irreplaceable.  The replacement may not be as talented or charismatic and fun to watch for us fans but they are replacements none the less.  I just hope that whomever takes over for them can be at least half as much fun to watch as these two have been.

[uncfan888]

Just now, joeyxfresco said:

Spoiler alert:
 

We keep Cam at least until 2021. 

I hope so man. Hopefully it would run off these trolly idiots

[Lucian]

31 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

And he's a Ron apologist. What a lame

The fact that you dont know that ron gave his offensive coaches the thumbs up to run a college style offense shows how clueless you really are. You would blame anyone other than cam himself. Are you even a fan of the team? Ir just cam? You seem willing to throw anyone under the bus other than hold cam accountable. If cam wanted to have a long healthy career, maybe he should have learned to qb slide in year one instead of shortening his career. 

[Krovvy]

6 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Could easily happen. Many mocks have him as low at 10. 

Mocks notoriously underrate quarterbacks early in the process. After the combine, and player meetings, teams make a final YES or NO on their guy (if they need a quarterback, which on average about 6 teams a year do), and then use all the draft capital they have to move in front of other quarterback needy teams. This happens pretty much every year. Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.

Teams that don't have the draft capital sometimes luck into guy, such as Lamar Jackson, as again it's a very YES or NO thing when teams are choosing a quarterback. Jackson was a no for a lot of teams last year, but he should unquestionably have been picked earlier. If the Panthers are drafting a quarterback this year I would rather try and find a slider than trade up.