Rivera’s send off was Elegant, Foxes departure was cold

[DeAngelo Beason]

Because as bad as things got under Rivera, they were infinitely worse under Fox.  He was horrible.

[BurnHurnBurn]

Fox was bad at the end.  Gave up and mailed in that last season and a half.  Fox teams were never the most talented on the field but they were scrappy.  Mostly from Jake and Smitty but it was the MO.

Rivera had more talent, more opportunities, more everything, barely got passed Fox.  Rivera consistently underachieved.  RR was worse than Fox.

[stratocatter]

When he figured out he wasn't going to get extended and it became a mexican standoff where he wouldn't quit and JR wouldn't pay him not to coach, yeah he was pretty terrible then.

Really hurt our team and I am certain he ran Clausen out there out of spite. Ruined whatever he might have been able to become. Clausen deserved better. Good or not.

[saX man]

I really wish the Game of Zones guys animated an NFL version. Ours would’ve been amazing this season.

[rayzor]

Yeah it was pretty much a battle of the grumpy old men that last year. Both guys were pretty bull headed. Whole thing was handled badly.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Rivera is a nice person.

Fox is not. 

I also think that whole situation was a good example of why known lame duck years are a terrible idea for everyone involved. JR was too cheap to fire Fox with the CBA negotiations looming and Fox and crew pretty much knew they were dead men walking. I'm sure there was a very pervasive negative not giving a flying fug attitude throughout the organization that season.

[JawnyBlaze]

1 hour ago, OneBadCat said:

Fox was worse than Rivera. His own willful ignorance to trot Delhomme out there past his prime. His unwillingness to adapt and his no balls coaching style got him what he deserved.  He rode the coat tails of Steve Smith, Double Trouble and a few elite defenses pieces until he got exposed. At least Ron TRIED to win, and even be innovative at times.

To be fair almost everything you said can be applied to Rivera. 
 

“His own willful ignorance to trot Cam out there when injured after the season is lost. His unwillingness to adapt and his no balls coaching style got him what he deserved.  He rode the coat tails of Cam and a few elite defenses pieces until he got exposed.”

[CPcavedweller]

56 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It came from somebody that used to work there.

Same source told the story about Fox dragging a visibly uncomfortable Marty Hurney to a strip club around the time of the 2003 Super Bowl.

Hurney looks uncomfortable any time I see him anyway. Have to wear that Hurn-Dog nickname proud and own the strip club. 

[CardiacCat]

Nothing was "elegant" about the way Rivera was let go.....  Ask the man himself.  Was it time for him to leave?  .... Yes, I believe so.  But was it handled "elegantly"? .....No, it wasn't.

[countryboi]

I saw Ron Rivera this weekend in Pineville near the Chipotle. I spoke and told him we love him. he seemed happy and so unbothered by the Panthers. 

[Mr. Scot]

28 minutes ago, CardiacCat said:

Nothing was "elegant" about the way Rivera was let go.....  Ask the man himself.  Was it time for him to leave?  .... Yes, I believe so.  But was it handled "elegantly"? .....No, it wasn't.

You could choose a different word than 'elegant' if you wanted, but the reality is that Rivera was sent off with multiple expressions of gratitude and well wishes, including some from the very owner that fired him.

John Fox's goodbye was basically the Panthers announcing that he was gone and talking about the search for the next guy.

[sml1950]

In the long run who really cares, when you’re dead you’re dead and only your mom and the mortician care  if you had skid marks in your underwear.  Fox is gone and forgotten and Rivera will soon be.

[GoPanthers123]

He is getting paid 7 mil still, I think he will get over it real fast.

[BurnHurnBurn]

55 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Fox had a lot more talent than Rivera ever had

No.  Cam and Luke beat out anything Fox had.