Panthers sticking with Allen....

[bmoshx]

Whatever it takes...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to lose out.

[JARROD]

Meanwhile that Drew Lock with the 42nd pick instead of Greg Little with the 37th.

back when we were talking Cam alternatives and drafting a quarterback I was like, he’s perfect.  When he fell we should have drafted him. 
 

but but but Greg Little.

[45catfan]

Put Tom Brady behind this OL and I still say we lose!

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

With our line I seriously wish they would start Grier so all the Nut Huggers could see it doesn't matter. 

At this point I want Grier to start because while I like Allen, I don't know that we will see enough from him over the next 3 weeks to change his status going into next year as a probable backup competing in camp for a spot on the roster.  

Grier is totally unknown.

He will get completely destroyed behind the OL as any QB will, but hell, let's see what he has.

[PantherPhann89]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Whether he's good or bad, let's be real. What do we have to lose at this point?

I'm being real, as I was questioning your statement of not trusting our coaching staff competence to properly evaluate talent on the roster, thus insinuating that they may be ignorant enough to keep him off the field because of their incompetence, but in the same message, not acknowledging that they were competent enough to draft him. You can't have one without the other. But I agree, at this point, we have nothing to lose!

[Snake]

6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

At this point I want Grier to start because while I like Allen, I don't know that we will see enough from him over the next 3 weeks to change his status going into next year as a probable backup competing in camp for a spot on the roster.  

Grier is totally unknown.

He will get completely destroyed behind the OL as any QB will, but hell, let's see what he has.

Grier is more raw than Allen and it isn't like either of them have been in the league for 3 years. If the line and WRs were better then maybe but right now Allen is probably the only QB that knows how to run this offense. Next year after Newton is traded we will probably get to see both in preseason a whole bunch. 

[Krovvy]

3 minutes ago, Snake said:

Grier is more raw than Allen and it isn't like either of them have been in the league for 3 years. If the line and WRs were better then maybe but right now Allen is probably the only QB that knows how to run this offense. Next year after Newton is traded we will probably get to see both in preseason a whole bunch. 

Allen makes no adjustments, and doesn't even know how to throw it to his first wide open read.

[electro's horse]

guys will grier is bad

like, he can't complete the route tree

[Raskle]

I don't get why they don't toss him in there to see how he handles a live NFL game. Even if there's a totally new FO and coaching staff, they can get some tape on him with live bullets flying around for the next guys to evaluate, at the very least.

 

I mean, is there really a difference between a poo show and super poo show at this point? The degree of embarrassment past a certain threshold doesn't really register for me anymore. Who honestly cares what everyone else thinks, if it means we have a better chance of improving our overall team for the future?

[WoahW]

45 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Allen makes no adjustments, and doesn't even know how to throw it to his first wide open read.

fuginn nut hugger - Snake in response to you

Allen is fuging trash plain and simple we could have a guy in a wheelchair play better QB than he is right now 

[Dragoon11]

2 hours ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Just thinking out loud. If you don't trust the personnel evaluation skills on our staff, why would you trust Grier?

No one does trust Grier... That's the whole point of putting him out there to see if there is potential.

[45catfan]

So the point in the exercise of throwing Grier to the wolves is to see if he's worth keeping as the 3rd string QB?  Ok, got it...

[Dragoon11]

2 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Say what you will about the preseason, but aside from his scrambling ability, Grier looked absolutely HORRIBLE!   That was against reserves and versus vanilla defensive schemes.  Think folks, think!

Well, to be fair, NFL reserves, and vanilla's are still WAY above the competition he faced in college. There's quite a gap between playing say...  Georgia Southern (yes, I realize he played in the SEC, just saying) and the Steelers 2nd and 3rd stringers. Not to mention learning the complexity of an NFL playbook when you're a rookie AND adjusting to how much faster the NFL pace and players are.

[Dragoon11]

32 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So the point in the exercise of throwing Grier to the wolves is to see if he's worth keeping as the 3rd string QB?  Ok, got it...

Yeah, why not? he may not even be 3rd string material, who knows? All he can do is "a job interview"... What does he really have to lose, or the team? That is unless this team truly believes Kyle Allen has the potential to be a franchise QB and they're rolling with him, but I really don't feel like that is the case... We DO need to see who is worth keeping if we are going into "rebuild" mode. So it really doesn't matter if we throw him to the wolves. The coaches realize the O-line sucks ass, and will consider that. Does the kid have moxie? can he perform under pressure? does he have a warriors competitiveness when he's out there? He doesn't have to look like Brett Favre, evaluators know what potential and "it" factor is. He either has it, or he doesn't, but we will not know unless he gets into a real game.