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Panthers sticking with Allen....

Jmac

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AggieLean Grand Master

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40 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

At this point, I'd be picking up some street free agent QB off the street and send him in to try and survive the next three games.

Kyle has something, but at the rate it's going all he has ahead is a date with a hospital and a long string of chiropractic visits. With a decent line and some good coaching, he might be okay, but no one could look good in this mess.

Kyle ain’t it, as Cam has shown that he’s quite capable of doing a lot more with a horrible line. If Cam is out, im all in favor of keeping Kyle in this season and next, as he’ll guarantee us Fields.

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48 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

My vote is that they don't want to destroy him in a few meaningless games behind an OL that couldn't protect a QB against a Pop Warner defense.  Truth is, what is the point?  It is very likely that nobody who would be evaluating him now will be around, anyway. 

It has been a while since I have been as down on a team as I am this one.  In every single respect.  We have a handful of players who are worth moving forward with, but otherwise, burn it to the ground and press the reset button.

I get the logic. We are only talking about three games, though.

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2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I have more or less concluded this.  Grier is so far behind Allen, and our line is so bad, they don't even need to see Grier in live game action to have an idea of how he'll play.  They know either way Grier is coming back next year since he was drafted.  Allen, I suppose, could still fail to make the team next year by playing himself out of a roster spot, heh.

Heres the oroblem, Hernia said he had grier graded higher than murray. HEY TEPPER, HOW DOES THIS BACK UP YOUR OPINION ON BRILLIANT TALENT EVALUATOR? Hurney isn't good at drafting in the first, hes good at taking the safe pick. Then gets herky jerky with draft picks. I fully expect he pulls a ditka this year to grab a kicker

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If we are legitimately evaluating personnel for the offseason, it really makes no sense to me why you would avoid putting Grier in for at least 2-3 games. Allen is a known entity at this point. There is not much hope of him improving this season, so why not see what you have in this guy Hurney drafted and Scott Turner supposedly loved?

Frankly, if we don't see him this year, I really see no reason not to completely write him off as anything other than a third string NFL QB. 

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Just now, RumHam said:

I literally just saw someone on twitter list all the personnel issues from the last draft and they blamed coaching and not hurney. You homers are insane

Hurney is a sub-.500 GM who hasn't built a winning NFL roster since 2008 yet somehow he's blameless...

oh wee mayne

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

If we are legitimately evaluating personnel for the offseason, it really makes no sense to me why you would avoid putting Grier in for at least 2-3 games. Allen is a known entity at this point. There is not much hope of him improving this season, so why not see what you have in this guy Hurney drafted and Scott Turner supposedly loved?

Frankly, if we don't see him this year, I really see no reason not to completely right him off as anything other than a third string NFL QB. 

Grier was drafted as a developmental backup.  If anyone here thinks he was drafted in the 3rd round...a reach (don't care that crazy Hurney had a 1st round grade on him) to be groomed to be Cams heir apparent, then y'all are getting crack from the good side of town.

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Grier was drafted as a developmental backup.  If anyone here thinks he was drafted in the 3rd round...a reach (don't care that crazy Hurney had a 1st round grade on him) to be groomed to be Cams heir apparent, then y'all are getting crack from the good side of town.

I'd say that was a pretty obvious waste of a 3rd round draft pick(which was obvious to most at the time). 

Regardless, let the kid get some real NFL snaps. There is nothing to play for. Let him try his hand as Tank Commander and see if he is any better or worse than Allen. If he is worse, oh well, tanking continues. If he is better, hey, might have something to work with in the future. I just don't see how there is a real loss in doing so and I 100% never buy into the "oh you don't want to ruin him." These guys are professional football players now. You either have it or you don't. If getting battered and chased around for 2-3 games ends your career.....it is a safe bet it wasn't going to be much of a career. 

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