It's been a decade since a team found their franchise QB in the top 5 of the NFL draft

[Tbe]

2 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

You can say the same thing about Cam Newton (drafted by the worst team in the NFL, had terrible coaches, especially as his OC (mostly Shula), lot of pressure, and he was such a great talent, we still went to the Super Bowl.

That's what you're looking for when you draft a QB in the top 3.

 

As OP stated, Cam has been the exception. 

[1of10Charnatives]

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

As OP stated, Cam has been the exception. 

Yeah @bobowilson how come you didn’t notice @bobowilson said that in the Op?

[raz]

i hope we draft jalen.   he's thick, he's tough, he handled being replaced by tua with class and is shining at oklahoma.  i'm no qb mastermind and don't know how he'll pan out in the nfl, but i really really want him to.  not even sure why i like him so much but i'll be stoked beyond measure if we draft him.  and i think he'll be there when we draft, but who knows

[cookinbrak]

10 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Yeah @bobowilson how come you didn’t notice @bobowilson said that in the Op?

I need to drink more or less, but the current amount is not cutting it.

[raz]

and oh yeah bobowilson, you've made a couple excellent threads in the past few days and i really appreciate it.

[bobowilson]

Even among the old guard, the last QBs to win the Superbowl were not drafted high

Brady (6th), Foles (3rd), Wilson (3rd), Flacco (1- 18th)

I'm going to pretend Peyton Manning didn't win that Superbowl, he really didn't do much and the refs screwed us

 

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

39 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Deshaun Watson - 12th pick

Russell Wilson - 3rd round

Patrick Mahomes - 10th pick

Lamar Jackson - 32nd pick

Kirk Cousins - 3rd round

Dak Prescott - 4th round

Derek Carr - 2nd round

looks to me like elite black quarterback prospects are a market inefficiency. idiots thought lamar was a wr lmao

e: also lol @ including carr and cousins

[mc52beast]

If we actually had a GM who could find players past the first round...

[1of10Charnatives]

4 minutes ago, raz said:

and oh yeah bobowilson, you've made a couple excellent threads in the past few days and i really appreciate it.

I second this. This forum needs moar bobowilson and less dead horse meat.

[Shocker]

Worries me that Hurney is turrible at evaluating QBs.

[1of10Charnatives]

7 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

looks to me like elite black quarterback prospects are a market inefficiency. idiots thought lamar was a wr lmao

e: also lol @ including carr and cousins

Been having the same thought about passive old guard racism providing a nice market inefficiency for those willing to exploit it. Count me perfectly willing to exploit the character flaws of other teams GM’s.

While we’re at it let’s spread rumors that Hispanics can’t play baseball. I don’t even watch baseball, but what the hell, might be fun.

[bobowilson]

8 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

 

e: also lol @ including carr and cousins

I'm not a huge Cousins fan, but he's still probably the 5th best quarterback in the NFL who is not pushing 40 years old

There's just not that many very good QBs

I would struggle to take any QB above Cousins who was not Lamar/Mahomes/Jackson/Watson (given how old Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Ryan, etc are).

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Tbe said:

It’s not that those top picks were trash, it’s that they went to bad teams who don’t know how to develop talent. Plus the pressure of being a top pick and the money that comes with it can mess with guys.

Valid point.

[Hoenheim]

If Tepper is dead set on getting another QB , if I were him I'd do it in 2021. Trade Cam for a bunch of picks, build up the Oline/Dline this year, and do the best you can with Grier or Allen in 2020.