Shaq signed to 4 year extension through 2023

[Black&BlueBubba]

You would have to think Tepper agreed with the signing.  

[Squirrel]

As long as it is structured that after 2 years we can cut him and save money if we needed I dont care. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

Double trouble 2.0?

[GoPanthers123]

We are close to being the worst defense in the league and extending players from this mess for top dollar doesn’t seem like a good idea.

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

This just isn't true

Lol this place is becoming worse than twitter

[Snake]

This also speaks to the fact we plan on keeping the 3-4 in place. We could have waited and signed him as a OLB who get paid less than ILB. 

[Snake]

Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Lol this place is becoming worse than twitter

"banned for violating abuse policy"

There you go. Now it's more Twittery. 

[stratocatter]

11 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

As long as it is structured that after 2 years we can cut him and save money if we needed I dont care. 

In his case that will be post 2021 but after 2020 the CBA is over or at least, there is something different going forward. Remember the uncapped year before the last one?

 

Yep 2020 is called the final year. Lots of things are affected. This looks like a pretty good summation:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26073422/nfl-cba-quirks-a-big-effect-2020-offseason

 

[*FreeFua*]

8 minutes ago, Snake said:

This also speaks to the fact we plan on keeping the 3-4 in place. We could have waited and signed him as a OLB who get paid less than ILB. 

Of course we are staying in a 3-4. Tepper wanted to go to 3-4 who thought we were going back to a 4-3?

[pantherj]

I don't want that kind of money spent at LB, but this is the blue collar Carolina old fashioned Panthers. Gotta give the guys who tackle whatever they want. Carolina's broken blueprint for middle of the road success. Carolina = Not bad enough to be at the top of the draft and not good enough to make the playoffs. 

[Mr. Scot]

 

 

[Raleigh PF]

I can't stop laughing at this forum some times. 

"Shaq is no good in a 3-4 defense." 

Did you guys miss the memo? Rivera was fired, in case you missed it. That tends to mean that there isn't a system in place on offense OR defense next year. I would bet a rather large sum that the Panthers will not be playing a 3-4 next year. It was a stupid idea that smacked of desperation and relied on everyone staying healthy, so yeah, it was a gamble that was bound to fail. Ellis will tell ya, all the signs were there during the preseason.

Pros: Shaq IS talented. Unfortunately, that talent hasn't been utilized properly. Did you notice that Luke was in coverage more than Shaq this year? Probably a reason for that. Hopefully, the next DC (who will not be named Washington), will understand his strengths and put him in the best position for it. Everyone talks about the coach, but I'm especially interested to find out who the new coordinators will be.

The biggest pro is, we don't go into the draft with a glaring need at LB. There are so many other holes, it's nice not to have to worry about this one during the offseason.

Cons: Shaq is not elite. He wasn't great in the 4-3, although he had his moments. He isn't great in the 3-4, but some of that had to do with personnel and scheme. I don't think we REALLY know what Shaq is, but I think we can rule out bonafide coverage LB. 

Bottom line: Although the contract is four years, it's the guaranteed money and how the contract is structured that determines the real value. Let's see the structure before we decide it's a fail. Depending, this could really be a 2 or 3 year deal for a lot less money. Let's wait and see the details.

[TheRumGone]

35 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

It was important to keep him and have someone to take over the defense when Luke is done in 2 years

A lot of people can’t fathom this and what I said in my original post. Luke’s contract is over in 2 years. He’s got concussion issues and has not looked like himself the past two years. I would not be surprised if we moved on or tried to trade him.

[1of10Charnatives]

@#$& @#$&er!

I just got out of my sales apt for the day, sold my last 4 in a row this week, got a hot date with a redhead tonite, and now I see this.

 

You’re killing me Hurney!

 

I was thinking 9 maaaaaaybe 10 a year tops and I’d be happy keeping him, but not a 30% premium over that.

im also thinking this signals that Hurney isn’t going anywhere AND it suggests Hurney has convinced Tepper a full tear down isn’t necessary, because in my mind Shaq was that guy straddling the fence of “have to keep him no matter what” and “nice to have if the price is right but let him walk in a major overhaul”.