Smartest article I have read on this whole sitation.

[kungfoodude]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

From Andrew Mason, former Panthers staff writer, quoting Hurney as he spoke about the drafting of Greg Little...

Right now I'm leaning toward Marty being retained, although in a diminished capacity, through this next draft. After that it's wide open, especially given that Kevin Colbert's contract will have expired at that point.

That is kind of my thought, he will be repurposed to a different role and serve as a transitional guy until after this offseason. 

I'd wager a substantial amount he won't be involved in the 2021 offseason.

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Who doesn’t  think this team is soft ?    

Rivera? Look what that got him.

[stratocatter]

I agree you should use everything. But Rivera wasn't wrong in some of his criticisms. It isn't all black and white or cut and dried whatever expression works for you.

I would think that analysis of offensive tendencies would be most beneficial but don't they do that stuff religiously already?

[Waldo]

I completely understand and sympathize with anyone dealing with massize change. It can be brutal in the begining. But the future is coming and hiding in the past like it's an absolute shield is just asking to get obliterated. Figure out how to make it work or find something else to do with your life, like golf or fishing.

[Mr. Scot]

I kind of get the feeling that if you got to hear Ron Rivera's true feelings about David Tepper, some of it wouldn't sound all that good.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I kind of get the feeling that if you got to hear Ron Rivera's true feelings about David Tepper, some of it wouldn't sound all that good.

For sure. I highly doubt many current front office, coaching staff or players prefer Tepper over Jerry Richardson.

Richardson was operating at the same level as a former NFL player. I am sure there was a natural connection through football.

So having someone from the business world and, even worse, the investment banking world is not going to make many people feel very warm and fuzzy. Especially having a guy that doesn't have any appreciable football background. I can definitely understand that there could be a disconnect or some suspicion.

But, the hope is we have a guy who can move this franchise forward. Some of the move towards a more analytical focus to pair with traditional football principles, is a very logical approach, IMO.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

For sure. I highly doubt many current front office, coaching staff or players prefer Tepper over Jerry Richardson.

Richardson was operating at the same level as a former NFL player. I am sure there was a natural connection through football.

So having someone from the business world and, even worse, the investment banking world is not going to make many people feel very warm and fuzzy. Especially having a guy that doesn't have any appreciable football background. I can definitely understand that there could be a disconnect or some suspicion.

But, the hope is we have a guy who can move this franchise forward. Some of the move towards a more analytical focus to pair with traditional football principles, is a very logical approach, IMO.

Yeah, I don't think anybody's going to be calling Tepper "warm and fuzzy".

Well, "fuzzy" maybe, especially if he keeps his shirt buttons open.

It's pretty easy to get the impression that the next coach is not going to be a "players coach" and that the organization in general is going to be geared more toward winning then everybody feeling good.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, I don't think anybody's going to be calling Tepper "warm and fuzzy".

Well, "fuzzy" maybe, especially if he keeps his shirt buttons open.

It's pretty easy to get the impression that the next coach is not going to be a "players coach" and that the organization in general is going to be geared more toward winning then everybody feeling good.

Yeah and at the end of the day it is a business. I am sure it will suck to be the players and have such a positive and family atmosphere end. But, at the end of the day this is about winning and he/they didn't do it enough. He's ultimately the one that is accountable for his staff and his players. 

None of us as fans get to experience that work environment. We want to be able to go to games and see wins. 

[Fox007]

56 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Analytics is a big big deal for David Tepper, but you have to look at everything he said. He wants a mix of "old school discipline" in there as well.

Should mention, there's one message that comes out fairly clearly to me reading those comments.

Tepper thinks our current team is soft.

Our current team is soft. Love literally everything about this so far.

[rayzor]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I kind of get the feeling that if you got to hear Ron Rivera's true feelings about David Tepper, some of it wouldn't sound all that good.

 

30 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

For sure. I highly doubt many current front office, coaching staff or players prefer Tepper over Jerry Richardson.

I can see all that on one level, but a theme I keep seeing Tepper hone in on is that people were afraid to make mistakes under the old administration and that kept them from trying or even suggesting something new.

Sounds like it was warm and fuzzy for those who appreciated a tight bond to an old status quo, however ineffective it was at getting results, but those who saw changes that could be or needed to be changed were told to shut up and don't rock the boat so they didn't.

[ellis]

He’ll run the college end of things, or he will be the transitional piece before making an exit. 

From folks I’ve talked to, I think he has sold Dave on his value. A big part of this job, the GM gig, is salesmanship: A lot of people in the organization jockeyed hard to get in Dave’s good graces real early. That’s not limited to the football operations side. Yes, that does include the media side. And that’s wise, as you don’t wanna be left out in the cold. 

Now, let me just reiterate: selling him on his value doesn’t mean he’s going to be in the same role if he stays. I think he will have a larger hand in the college scouting unit. A niche focus would do Marty well, if he stays. But whatever behemoth of an analytics department they’re going to build, that department will be what runs the organization.

If Marty stays, he will answer to the data and those who run it. The VP of football ops guy? I mean, that’s just Kevin Colbert all the way. But then again, nobody really knows anything yet. Fun to speculate.

I’ve been told, again and no one certain terms, David Tepper likes Marty.

As for the next coach:

For those who still question Jim Harbaugh: he’s made every program better. In fact, he’s made every program worlds better. His teams have lacked sustainability after his departure, with the exception of Stanford.

Ohio State doesn’t matter in the NFL. Bowl Games don’t matter in the NFL. He took San Francisco to three straight NFC championship games with Alex Smith and a very unknown commodity at the time in Colin Kaepernick. 

For those who say Jim is too hard to work with: Trent Baalke was the problem there. He got into a pissing contest with the head coach, and Jed York foolishly crowned him the winner. 

I have a laundry list of reasons why that coach makes sense for this organization, all the way down to the personnel fits. 

Will it happen? Again, who knows. Just don’t let people drive this “he can’t win the big one “narrative” up your ass. I don’t give a crap about Michigan or Ohio State. That’s their problem.

We’ll see what happens. I would be shocked if they hired somebody like Kevin Stefanski. I sense Dave wants an alpha male on the sidelines. He wants a hardnose, interactive HC with power principles in the running game and play action off of it. And then, he wants to mesh it with the modern age of analytics, and I’m telling you, he will probably put together the most impressive analytics department in sports. If those two things can mesh, with a healthy Cam in the same backfield as Christian McCaffrey? Yeah, you’ll have fun with that.

[ellis]

By the way, my last post was done via voice text. And it was embarrassingly butchered. My apologies in advance. Voice text is ass.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I can see all that on one level, but a theme I keep seeing Tepper hone in on is that people were afraid to make mistakes under the old administration and that kept them from trying or even suggesting something new.

Sounds like it was warm and fuzzy for those who appreciated a tight bond to an old status quo, however ineffective it was at getting results, but those who saw changes that could be or needed to be changed were told to shut up and don't rock the boat so they didn't.

Makes sense. When you had an owner who valued loyalty more than ability, you definitely didn't want to be seen as a boat rocker.

What I would guess Tepper understands is that even people who are good at their job sometimes make mistakes. That's okay.

Consistently making mistakes is another story. That's evidence that you are not, in fact, good at your job.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, ellis said:

By the way, my last post was done via voice text. And it was embarrassingly butchered. My apologies in advance. Voice text is ass.

Been there 

Good content though...