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Hurney isn't going to be demoted or limited to college scouting

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27 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

When you have the final say, you are in the highest level of power.

When you don't have the final say, you are not at the highest level of power.

Marty had the final say, now it's very likely that he will not.  Now weather you take that as a demotion or not, that's essentially what it is.

Marty was the king, now he's a part of the governing body.

No he didn't have final say. No general manager does if the owner is involved at all. Tepper has the final say as Richardson did as well. The fact that Tepper was more involved in the business side than the football side doesn't mean he wasn't involved and didn't sign off on Hurney's decisions.  What GM/Coach not named Bill Belicheck really has final say on all matters. Hurney has always been a collaborator and included others so I doubt he will have issues with this. He has never tried to be king so I doubt that characterization is accurate 

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Just now, ellis said:

The big takeaway for me from yesterday: nobody knows a goddamn thing yet. 

Peter King had a good point on the PFT video clip I posted.

King advised not to assume that all these decisions are made yet, especially given that certain things aren't settled (Kevin Colbert's contract status for example).

My read is still that Marty is here in some capacity other than full control at least through the next draft. That said, it's possible that even Marty's current status isn't absolutely decided at this point.

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On that same front, something to ponder from our recently returned friend SigChi.

Sig posted on here that team president Tom Glick is not a big fan of Marty. And on the video you have David Tepper saying "I don't want to lose him".

Well, why would you have to worry about that if you're the owner and you make the decisions?

That is, unless there were some internal conflicts inside the building that might be pushing against it.

Again, don't know. But yeah, it's plausible.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Peter King had a good point on the PFT video clip I posted.

King advised not to assume that all these decisions are made yet, especially given that certain things aren't settled (Kevin Colbert's contract status for example).

My read is still that Marty is here in some capacity other than full control at least through the next draft. That said, it's possible that even Marty's current status isn't absolutely decided at this point.

It’s perfectly OK to speculate. It’s actually kind of fun. But in moderation. Otherwise, it spreads like a goddamn wildfire. I have a decent idea of the direction they wanna go in general, but specifics? No clue.

What I want doesn’t matter. But I’m optimistic that what I want has a shot. Marty? I’m tired of talking about Marty. If he stays, shackle him down to the analytics. If he gets demoted, fine, still shackle him down to analytics. If they dismiss him, good. Probably the wise move.

I’m much more interested in how they structure the scouting departments, football operations, and eventually who they zone in on for OC/SC/ST and staff. 

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1 minute ago, ellis said:

It’s perfectly OK to speculate. It’s actually kind of fun. But in moderation. Otherwise, it spreads like a goddamn wildfire. I have a decent idea of the direction they wanna go in general, but specifics? No clue.

What I want doesn’t matter. But I’m optimistic that what I want has a shot. Marty? I’m tired of talking about Marty. If he stays, shackle him down to the analytics. If he gets demoted, fine, still shackle him down to analytics. If they dismiss him, good. Probably the wise move.

I’m much more interested in how they structure of the scouting departments, football operations, and eventually who they zone in on for OC/SC/ST and staff. 

Agreed.

Right now, the speculation that's getting the most buzz is around Nick Caserio and Kevin Colbert. Those two are a very different stages of their careers.

I'd say the more long term prospect is Caserio but Colbert would make a great consultant or short-term GM to rebuild all those departments were talking about.

Basically, Colbert could get us reorganized and then we could move forward with Caserio.

That's a plan I'd be completely on board with.

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4 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

YESSS!!! Big fan, can you please show some proof of this and are we actively trying to hire him?

Ben Volin (longtime Patriots beat writer) said on his Twitter that the Panthers inquired after both Nick Caserio and Josh McDaniels at the end of last season. That's expected to have occurred before Tepper made the decision to stand pat.

Recently someone else (I think it might have been Albert Breer but I'd have to look) mentioned them as a possible combination this season.

So I'd say stay tuned...

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23 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Said he personally believes Tepper is going to make a huge splash and doesn't think McDaniels is a big enough splash

Riley is bout as big as it gets based off things so far and he is getting a head start since dallas is keeping garret till the end of season.  

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Joe lives in Charlotte now and he said the next word out of the Panthers camp is "The coming months promise to not be boring" he also said there's a reason to fire Rivera early and he believes its to get a jump on Jerry Jones and get Lincoln Riley. Said he doesn't think Josh McDaniels is a big enough splash hire 

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