Cam Newton plans to have foot surgery

[therealmjl]

17 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Whatever keeps him from playing another down here....I’m all for it. 

ok boomer

[Jangler]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

You can change your avatar and your profile but we see you Jangler.

every breath I take without you're permission, raises my self esteem. RS

 

 

[ickmule]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  I’m not concerned one bit with how it concerns the Panthers. I want Cam healthy with a team that doesn’t need a complete rebuild. Specifically behind that OL. Just time to move on for him. 

Cam knows he won’t be in Carolina next season just like Ron knew weeks  ago he wouldn’t be.  

[t96]

29 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Ask yourself why this didn't happen a month ago. 

I’m starting to buy into these notions that Cam should be held partly responsible for his health and that he’s extremely hesitant to do surgery even when it’s clearly the right thing to do and what all doctors suggest. Nothing else explains the delayed surgeries now and on his shoulder twice.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, rodeo said:

might honestly be the worst post in the history of this board

   Why would a fan of “Cam” first, something I’ve always said I was, want him to come back and play for this team, in their current shape? Make that case and convince me if this post is so bad. Tell me about why. Did you think I was taking a shot at Cam? 

[WoahW]

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

I’m starting to buy into these notions that Cam should be held partly responsible for his health and that he’s extremely hesitant to do surgery even when it’s clearly the right thing to do and what all doctors suggest. Nothing else explains the delayed surgeries now and on his shoulder twice.

He’s trying to imply Cam as doing this to get traded or released. Remember no one actually knows discussions between Tepper and Cam at all but all these “insiders” will jump on whatever bandwagon gets the most views/clicks 

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

I’m starting to buy into these notions that Cam should be held partly responsible for his health and that he’s extremely hesitant to do surgery even when it’s clearly the right thing to do and what all doctors suggest. Nothing else explains the delayed surgeries now and on his shoulder twice.

It's his fault we ran him into the ground using him as a battering ram his whole career? Even two years ago he was our leading rusher for the season. Now you want to vilify the guy over surgery? Oh but you want a successful franchise so badly and think you deserve that right?

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

This timeline almost guarantees he will be released.  

I'd have to look it up, but doesn't a player having surgery complicate that process somewhat?

[rodeo]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Why would a fan of “Cam” first, something I’ve always said I was, want him to come back and play for this team, in their current shape? Make that case and convince me if this post is so bad. Tell me about why. Did you think I was taking a shot at Cam? 

ok from that angle it's ok. i thought you just wanted him gone. statement retracted

[mav1234]

24 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Why would a fan of “Cam” first, something I’ve always said I was, want him to come back and play for this team, in their current shape? Make that case and convince me if this post is so bad. Tell me about why. Did you think I was taking a shot at Cam? 

Few of us keep track of posters thoughts and feelings on players. So I did think you held negative opinions of Cam.

[t96]

Just now, TheRed said:

It's his fault we ran him into the ground using him as a battering ram his whole career? Even two years ago he was our leading rusher for the season. Now you want to vilify the guy over surgery? Oh but you want a successful franchise so badly and think you deserve that right?

I’m not vilifying him at all but we’ve seen plenty of reports about Cam not wanting to do surgery and opting for other methods of healing instead, then when that doesn’t work and he isn’t healthy he does the surgery anyways much later. I’m not a fan of how we used him in the run game but frankly all of his major injuries came on hits in the pocket that were clean regular hits that QBs take (his concussion from dirty headshots against the Broncos aside—I don’t think he missed time due to that). Yes our OL has been partly to blame but there are other teams with just as bad OL that don’t have QB injuries. I’d say it’s just bad luck and then possibly the wrong response from Cam in regards to the recovery process...

 

I have no ill will towards Cam and the way he goes about treatment on his own body,  if those reports about avoiding surgery are true. Those types of decisions may help him down the line in life, but they may not have been the best choices for staying healthy on the football field...

[TheRumGone]

at this point I don’t even know what we’re gonna do. You release him after surgery he heals up nicely you look like a fuging idiot when we have no franchise qb. You let him heal and his injuries are too much to overcome and you look like a fuging idiot.

If we draft a qb with our first rounder the writing will be on the wall. If we don’t then I think cam stays for a year. 
 

then the question comes up does he even want to play for this team. There are so many variables. 

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Few of keep track of posters thoughts and feelings on players. So I did think you held negative opinions of Cam.

 Understand. It was vague. And since I don’t discuss Cam(good or bad...huge bias) how could you? I think many others did too. 

[Carl Spackler]

 

Just now, TheRumGone said:

at this point I don’t even know what we’re gonna do. You release him after surgery he heals up nicely you look like a fuging idiot when we have no franchise qb. You let him heal and his injuries are too much to overcome and you look like a fuging idiot.

If we draft a qb with our first rounder the writing will be on the wall. If we don’t then I think cam stays for a year. 
 

then the question comes up does he even want to play for this team. There are so many variables. 

I don't think keeping him for one year, the first under a new coach, makes anyone look like an idiot. Even with that cap number.