We need to ditch drafting BPA and start drafting for need instead.

[uncfan888]

58 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Isn't that how we got grier?

We have been. We don't do BPA anymore. Even CMC was drafting for need. Drafting both him and Samuel back to back was an attempt to get speedy playmakers that were much needed.

It's been a long time since we went pure BPA.

It's about time for Panthersunited to beg one of you to ban him again 

[LinvilleGorge]

I think need has to be part of the evaluation criteria, but I never favor drafting a lesser prospect based purely on need. In the case that there's a group of prospects rated pretty equally, then yeah let need determine the pick.

[Mr. Scot]

For the record, Marty has admitted that his draft MO in the past was to go BPA in the first (which oddly enough usually turned out to be a running back or a linebacker) and then draft for need in every other round.

It didn't work so well.

Hurney also stated that the first three rounds of this past draft were need picks and that he only started going BPA from the fourth round on.

So yeah I'm afraid this idea is a swing and a miss.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Sanchez

Worley

Gaulden

 

That is all.

[Riverboat Ron]

Turn drafting over to the Huddle and we'd land 7 all pros each draft.

[DubE_4MR]

Have we really been drafting bpa? I don't think Gaulden was bpa on anybody's board. lol

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

Um

So do what Hurney has been doing

 

Drafting for need got you Gaulden

Drafting for need gave up a 3rd rd pick to move up for Little.

Drafting for need got you Will Grier when you had a younger version of him with Allen. When there were other guys at positions of need available.

No galuden was not the need pick he was a hurney special everyone knew Gaulden was bad in fact Harrison was regarded as much better and went 2 picks after us and been good in the nfl. Grier wasn't the best qb on the board either that was a hurney special. 

[micnificent28]

I hate the idea of BPA. Because it's completely a trash idea. You need to add in take the best player with in reason. Like your not gonna take a quarterback a number 1 if you drafted one last year. There's always situations like that. So you have to mix in need into your bpa logic.

Drafting bpa also got us in trouble with players like shaq sitting behind our other 2 stud linebackers until the 5th year of his contract. Also let's not forget the bpa pick Vernon butler who had been nothing until now. Sitting behind our studly line. Dont talk to me a about BPA that's always been the polite thing to say it's just wrong at times.

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

Have we really been drafting bpa? I don't think Gaulden was bpa on anybody's board. lol

Apparently on one guy's board...

It's been acknowledged before that Marty has a habit of seeing something in certain players that nobody else sees...

...reason being that it isn't actually there.

[thefuzz]

11 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I hate the idea of BPA. Because it's completely a trash idea. You need to add in take the best player with in reason. Like your not gonna take a quarterback a number 1 if you drafted one last year. There's always situations like that. So you have to mix in need into your bpa logic.

Drafting bpa also got us in trouble with players like shaq sitting behind our other 2 stud linebackers until the 5th year of his contract. Also let's not forget the bpa pick Vernon butler who had been nothing until now. Sitting behind our studly line. Dont talk to me a about BPA that's always been the polite thing to say it's just wrong at times.

I don't think you are correct in your line of thinking here.

Shaq was drafted to be an insurance policy, as was Vernon.  I don't think that either were BPA.

[DubE_4MR]

15 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I hate the idea of BPA. Because it's completely a trash idea. You need to add in take the best player with in reason. Like your not gonna take a quarterback a number 1 if you drafted one last year. There's always situations like that. So you have to mix in need into your bpa logic.

Drafting bpa also got us in trouble with players like shaq sitting behind our other 2 stud linebackers until the 5th year of his contract. Also let's not forget the bpa pick Vernon butler who had been nothing until now. Sitting behind our studly line. Dont talk to me a about BPA that's always been the polite thing to say it's just wrong at times.

The concept isn't literally "best player on the board" and BOOM. Usually teams have a group of 4-5 guys that they consider to be "BPA"  that are available when they pick. Then out of that group you can consider team needs and other factors.

[micnificent28]

4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I don't think you are correct in your line of thinking here.

Shaq was drafted to be an insurance policy, as was Vernon.  I don't think that either were BPA.

You might wanna go back and do some research... Vern was definitely regarded as the best player on the board. Shaq as well.. but with shaq it could have been a bit of they were smitten with him in there as well. Both were at the top of their boards tho.

[micnificent28]

2 minutes ago, DubE_4MR said:

The concept isn't literally "best player on the board" and BOOM. Usually teams have a group of 4-5 guys that they consider to be "BPA"  that are available when they pick. Then out of that group you can consider team needs and other factors.

I'm fine with that that's within reason. I think the term bpa like hey we think this kicker is the best player on the board so we took him. Maybe it needs a bit of clarification instead of that. 

[onmyown]

2 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Yes, I said it! All these years we hear over and over again about how drafting BPA is ALWAYS the way to go, I’m starting to disagree. Sure, don’t get me wrong, drafting BPA has landed us great players like Luke and CMC but guess what, we are still a bad football team. We HAVE to rebuild this O line, we HAVE to. In fact it’s so bad that if the choice comes down to a perennial pro bowl WR or a pretty good LT, take the LT all day long!

It seems that all you accomplish by drafting BPA is having pro bowl level players on a bad football team. I mean case in point CMC, CMC is a MVP level type of player on a 5-7 football team currently, he was also BPA. Luke Kuechly, a future HOFer on a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in three years, see where I’m going?

The bottom line is, instead of trying to draft BPAs and land future HOFers at positions we don’t really need, let’s try instead to draft ok to pretty dang decent players at positions we are in desperate need of. Because BPA you just land great players yes that will put up godly stats but overall doesn’t translate to more wins or consistent success

I disagree.

There is one thing perineal contenders do well, or teams who make the postseason even just once do well.

Free agency. Filling the holes.

And I’m not referring to signing big names. The 2015 Panthers are a perfect example. But so are the Rams and the Eagles. He’ll even the Chiefs with Alex Smith did well doing this. 

You fill the holes with solid play and build/scheme the rest of the team around your superstars or BPA picks that work out.

Gettle was great at this. Hurney is great at finding our superstars. They really just need to have a baby together to great the ultimate GM.